Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!gatech!hubcap!ncrcae!ncrlnk!uunet!ccicpg!turnkey!conexch!rob From: rob@conexch.UUCP (Robert Collins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: 80x86 numbering (was: 80486) Message-ID: <16716@conexch.UUCP> Date: 17 Dec 88 05:48:38 GMT References: <15374@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> <45900175@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu> <10254@watdragon.waterloo.edu> <2618@rti.UUCP> <715@ethz.UUCP> Reply-To: rob@conexch.UUCP (Robert Collins) Organization: The Consultants' Exchange, Orange County, CA. (714) 842-6348 Lines: 33 In article <715@ethz.UUCP> zu@bernina.UUCP (Urs Zurbuchen) writes: -In article <2618@rti.UUCP> bcw@rti.UUCP (Bruce Wright) writes: ->What do you do with the architecture after the 80386 - outside of speedups ->like more on-chip cache and higher MHz? The architecture has pretty much ->reached its limit ... look at '386 native mode: a complete revamping of ->the instruction set! Seems to me that after '386 native mode there's no ->good place to take the architecture, it's already pretty much maxed out. ->So you either make it faster or you go to a new chip design. Why then is ->there all this hype about a '486? It'll probably only be a fast '386 ->(like the 80186 to an 8086). - -The 80486 is rumored to have a virtual 80286 mode as the 80386 has a -virtual 8086 mode. That's all we waited for, isn't it. So we can run -multiple OS/2's on one computer :-) (If you run two OS/2's does this -make it a complete Operating System ?) - -By the way, this virtual 80286 mode caused Intel a lot of problems. It -seems to be the main reason why the chip is that late. - In the latest (or one of the latest) issues of Microprocessor Report, says the '486 will have downloadable micro code, and a 6 instruction prefetch queue. As for the bigger prefetch queue, that means that relative jumps can be done in 0 clock cycles. But as to your assertion of disbelief that much can be done other than speedups, I think downloadable microcode is lightyears more advanced than the '386. For copies of Microprocessor report, you must pay $250/year for a subscription, but I find it well worth it. -- "Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only." Mat. 4:10 Robert Collins UUCP: ucbvax!ucivax!icnvax!conexch!rob HOMENET: (805) 523-3205 UUCP: uunet!ccicpg!turnkey!conexch!rob WORKNET: (805) 371-5081