Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!ucsd!ucbvax!hplabs!hpda!hpcuhc!edwardm From: edwardm@hpcuhc.HP.COM (Edward McClanahan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Re: NeXT Memory - No Error Checking or Parity ! Message-ID: <680002@hpcuhc.HP.COM> Date: 16 Dec 88 23:47:16 GMT References: <1429@cpoint.UUCP> Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino Lines: 28 > ...this is a MBTF of 43 days... You used this acronym so consistently, I wasn't sure... But you must mean MTBF. I don't know of a single PC-class computer that uses ECC memory. The IBM PC uses PARITY to DETECT errors. I believe that all Atari, Apple, Commodore, Compac, Dell, etc... "affordable" computers don't even have Parity! One could argue that cost is the determinant. The obvious rebuttal to this tack is the fact that several of these manufacturers sell machines in the $10,000 range. In the PC days of the past, memory failures may have been acceptable. No cached/paged data needed to be flushed/posted for consistency. In fact, crashes are no big deal on a vintage PC (unless your editor doesn't do frequent posts). No LAN would be left in an inconsistent state. All that is changing quickly. OS/2 and UNIX both have Virtual Memory. Many of the high performance PCs contain cache (albiet presently usually of the write-through nature). Ram-disks are quite common. And finally, a large percentage of PCs are being integrated into LANs. We all witnessed how quickly "corruption" can infect other machines on these LANs (refer to the email/Internet WORM reports). If all these concerns are valid, where are all the ECC memory add-on boards? Also, which NeXT competitors use ECC memory? ed "I still wanna NeXT" mcclanahan ----------