Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!altnet!altos86!nate From: nate@altos86.UUCP (Nathaniel Ingersoll) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: ATM passwords (PINs) Message-ID: <753@altos86.UUCP> Date: 9 Dec 88 19:58:45 GMT Reply-To: nate@altos86.UUCP (Nathaniel Ingersoll) Organization: Altos Computer Systems, San Jose, CA Lines: 22 References: The way I look at it, all ATM cards (at least all the ones I've ever run across) do not have their PIN encoded on the card. When you do a transaction, the following events must happen: 1) enter card 2) enter pin 3) select transaction 4) success: result of action 5) failure: notification Now, if your PIN was encoded on the card, you could be informed of PIN failure immediately after (2). However, the ATM waits to perform all data transfer until it has all necessary information, so it probably sends whatever you entered for a PIN, your transaction data, and whatever else, to the remote computer, which then validates the PIN and transaction. Make sense? -- Nathaniel Ingersoll Altos Computer Systems, SJ CA ...!ucbvax!sun!altos86!nate altos86!nate@sun.com