Xref: utzoo sci.crypt:1405 comp.unix.wizards:13598 news.sysadmin:1972 Newsgroups: sci.crypt,comp.unix.wizards,news.sysadmin Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) Subject: Re: Yet Another useful paper Message-ID: <1988Dec21.194132.17986@utzoo.uucp> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology References: <11013@ulysses.homer.nj.att.com> <2308@cuuxb.ATT.COM> <4420@xenna.Encore.COM> <2743@epimass.EPI.COM> <110@microsoft.UUCP> <12750@bellcore.bellcore.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 88 19:41:32 GMT In article <12750@bellcore.bellcore.com> karn@ka9q.bellcore.com (Phil Karn) writes: >I too have my doubts about the effectiveness of shadow password files. My >fear is that it will make administrators complacent; they'll reason that >since no one can get at the file, then there's no need to ensure on a >regular basis that people pick hard-to-guess passwords. Turn it around: would you suggest deleting shadow password files, from systems which already have them, just to keep the sysadmins alert? Seems a bit drastic to me. I would think that any sensible sysadmin realizes that password guessing via login is always a threat. And insensible :-) sysadmins are beyond help anyway, short of massive upheaval in the software to make it naive-sysadmin-friendly. -- "God willing, we will return." | Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology -Eugene Cernan, the Moon, 1972 | uunet!attcan!utzoo!henry henry@zoo.toronto.edu