Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!uwvax!umn-d-ub!nic.MR.NET!hal!ncoast!allbery From: allbery@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon S. Allbery) Newsgroups: news.sysadmin Subject: Re: Being anti-moral (was Re: Getting Complacent) Message-ID: <13249@ncoast.UUCP> Date: 13 Dec 88 02:38:52 GMT References: <44439@beno.seismo.CSS.GOV> <16742@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> <5366@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> <172@twwells.uucp> <13150@ncoast.UUCP> <211@twwells.uucp> <13201@ncoast.UUCP> <242@twwells.uucp> Reply-To: allbery@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon S. Allbery) Followup-To: news.sysadmin Organization: Cleveland Public Access UN*X, Cleveland, Oh Lines: 62 As quoted from <242@twwells.uucp> by bill@twwells.uucp (T. William Wells): +--------------- | In article <13201@ncoast.UUCP> allbery@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon S. Allbery) writes: | : (5) Finger-pointing, setting blame, and punishing the perpetrator isn't | : going to stop the NEXT person who gets it into his/her/its head to do | : something like the Worm. | | But that is just a rephrase of point #2: +--------------- (Did this message get lost in a net.timewarp or something???!) I dropped a line: Thinking about security and TAKING ACTION TO PREVENT FURTHER ABUSES will stop the next person. The point was that constructive action is better than blaming everyone under the sun (or Sun, as the case may be) for what happened. And some people *still* haven't gotten the point yet. +--------------- | That disgusting Weemba sent me e-mail, of his typically abusive kind, | in which he denies that he said #2. +--------------- You're disclosing the contents of email? (Paraphrased, but still not proper.) +--------------- | If you are correct in your assertion that he said (5), which is just | a paraphrase of (2), then you have given me further evidence of his | intellectual dishonesty. +--------------- He said (not in so many words) the modified version of (5) above. He expended quite a few classic tantrums on it, in fact; and I jumped into the fray to try to rephrase them in a form acceptable to the rest of the world, BECAUSE he had a good point. And I think a distinction can be drawn between your #2 (which someone else, I forget who, DID propose) and my #5 even though they start out the same way: one is mindless flaming, the other offers an alternative and is therefore constructive. (Constructive?! Will the world end? ;-) +--------------- | Since I don't have his messages any more, I can't verify that this is | true; do you have one of the messages where he said it, or failing | that, do you recall who it is that was archiving the worm discussion? +--------------- Ncoast had them until our news partition ran out of inodes and we had to trash them to get inodes back (no, it ISN'T the System V Alzheimer's bug, System III doesn't do inode caching of that sort). ++Brandon -- Brandon S. Allbery, comp.sources.misc moderator and one admin of ncoast PA UN*X uunet!hal.cwru.edu!ncoast!allbery ncoast!allbery@hal.cwru.edu allberyb@skybridge.sdi.cwru.edu allbery@uunet.uu.net comp.sources.misc is moving off ncoast -- please do NOT send submissions direct Send comp.sources.misc submissions to comp-sources-misc@.