Xref: utzoo sci.philosophy.tech:878 sci.bio:1665 bionet.molbio.evolution:44 Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!uunet!bionet!rutgers!mcnc!ecsvax!uncmed!earl!danielg From: danielg@earl.med.unc.edu (Daniel Gene Sinclair) Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech,sci.bio,bionet.molbio.evolution Subject: Re: How to debate the creationists. Message-ID: <189@uncmed.med.unc.edu> Date: 13 Dec 88 22:52:48 GMT References: <4806@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> Sender: news@uncmed.med.unc.edu Reply-To: danielg@earl.UUCP (Daniel Gene Sinclair) Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine Lines: 46 Just a note from a former evolutionist (though no PhD). I will try to avoid all the gibberish possible ;-). I imagine that I would like to make three quick points: 1. Go with a critical mindset, but not a critical attitude. I have seen too many creationist/evolutionist "debates" and "Q&A sessions" turn into dogmatic spittle exchanges. What does this guy have to gain? Scientific recognition? There must be easier ways. Religious conversion? Maybe, I'm not sure who this guy is anyway. Maybe he's got something? Well, postpone judgement until 10 minutes after he's done, as opposed to 10 minutes after he starts :-). 2. Be critical of your own position as well. I know that sounds absurd in light of current data, but would a real scientist do anything less? 3. Don't get bent out of shape. My perspective is that the truth will stand up under pressure. If evolution proves (as if we will ever be able to "prove" either side definitively) wrong, no big hassle. And no great men ever went without having their opinions challenged openly, as well as on a personal level. Have fun! ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: DANIELG@UNC.MED (I THINK) ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "...because what may be known about God is evident among them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation (there's that word :-) ) of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made...so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify (that is, acknowledge) Him as God, nor were they thankful (see the progression here : 1. didn't acknowledge God 2. became unthankful, and consequently...) but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools..." - Romans 1:19-22 (couldn't resist) :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::