Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) Subject: Re: Info wanted on Atlantis "secret" military satellite payload Message-ID: <1988Dec12.180010.499@utzoo.uucp> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology References: <684@pyuxd.UUCP> <1988Dec4.225033.18207@utzoo.uucp> <6464@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU> <12418@bellcore.bellcore.com> <1988Dec8.001846.26121@utzoo.uucp> <12485@bellcore.bellcore.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 88 18:00:10 GMT In article <12485@bellcore.bellcore.com> karn@jupiter.UUCP (Phil R. Karn) writes: >... I have run an eclipse predictor for the >next six months on the last known orbital elements for STS-27. >... by mid March 1989, the orbit plane will have precessed (and the >terminator moved by the earth's motion around the sun) such that each day's >passes over Moscow will all find it in darkness; the passes begin after >sundown and end before sunrise.... I don't have much of a feel for eclipse geometries -- what's the equivalent "shadow period" for, say, Sakhalin Island or Vladivostok? That is, for what period is the *whole* USSR "in shadow"? That would seem a better measure of the period in which the satellite is useless. (My gut feeling is that it's roughly the same period, since the underlying problem is that the high-northern-latitude part of the orbit's ground track is in shadow, but I'd be interested in confirmation.) >...The evidence that the satellite >does not require daylight over the USSR to function is therefore quite >strong. I'm afraid I have to disagree. What Phil has done is to supply quantitative backing for his earlier observation that this is far from an ideal orbit for a "daylight" satellite. That doesn't affect my observation, which is that it's the best orbit the US can manage for a satellite that's too big for a Titan 34D. (The KH11 would fit on a Titan, but there are no more KH11s.) I would amend Phil's conclusion to something like: There is therefore quite strong evidence that either (a) the satellite does not require daylight over the USSR to function, or (b) launching a new daylight-optical satellite was considered urgent enough to justify use of an orbit which seriously limits the satellite's usefulness. -- SunOSish, adj: requiring | Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology 32-bit bug numbers. | uunet!attcan!utzoo!henry henry@zoo.toronto.edu