Xref: utzoo can.politics:2029 can.francais:108 Path: utzoo!attcan!lsuc!ecicrl!clewis From: clewis@ecicrl.UUCP (Chris Lewis) Newsgroups: can.politics,can.francais Subject: Re: Notwithstanding clause -- truly a sad day for Canada Message-ID: <169@ecicrl.UUCP> Date: 28 Dec 88 20:01:55 GMT References: <1988Dec13.133220.28851@lsuc.uucp> <4321@hcr.UUCP> <809@auvax.UUCP> <230@electro.UUCP> <2521@looking.UUCP> <560@cavell.UUCP> <165@ecicrl.UUCP> <1736@maccs.McMaster.CA> Reply-To: clewis@ecicrl.UUCP (Chris Lewis) Distribution: can Organization: Elegant Communications Inc. (CRL Division) Lines: 45 In article <1736@maccs.McMaster.CA> gordan@maccs.UUCP () writes: >Yes, there are lots of Chinese-only signs in Chinatown, but if you want >to make a valid comparison, you would have to imagine half of Metro >Toronto being Cantonese-speaking (say, everything west of Yonge). You >would further have to imagine the rest of the country and the continent >(other than roughly six million people in southern Ontario) as being >Cantonese-speaking. Furthermore, Cantonese would be the worldwide >language of commerce and popular culture. >Now you have a valid comparison. >What would the English-speaking majority of the tiny enclave of southern >Ontario do under such circumstances? Hard to say. It's actually quite easy to say: By what right can the rest of the province dictate what language business is conducted in within Toronto? Or vice-versa? Especially if the majority within Toronto is something else? All you would be doing is forcing a few million people within Toronto to conduct business in a language other than they want to. You want to create animosity? Civil War? If such a thing were to happen, well, what could I *reasonably* do to *force* other people to "use" my culture? Absolutely *nothing*. Languages, cultures and ethnicity *evolve* damn it, and if one can't survive on it's own, sorry, but bye-bye. Even if it's my own. Everybody's going to should "that's easy for you to say! Yours won't." Does that deprive me of an opinion or invalidate one? Nope. Especially since there is just as little likelyhood that the French-Canadian culture will disappear. Or Canadian-Ukrainian, Canadian-Jewish or any other of the rest of the hyphenated cultures that are not disappearing either, even though they don't have the ability to create such laws. If Ukrainians, Poles, Jews, Chinese, Japanese etc. can keep their cultures alive without such laws, why can't the Quebecois? Are they afraid that without being forced nobody would think the Quebecois culture was worth keeping? They only sell themselves short... -- Chris Lewis, Markham, Ontario, Canada {uunet!attcan,utgpu,yunexus,utzoo}!lsuc!ecicrl!clewis Ferret Mailing list: ...!lsuc!gate!eci386!ferret-request (or lsuc!gate!eci386!clewis or lsuc!clewis)