Xref: utzoo comp.ai:2951 talk.philosophy.misc:1755 sci.lang:3672 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!bbn!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!bionet!agate!ucbvax!ucsd!cogsci!zhang From: zhang@cogsci.ucsd.EDU (Jiajie Zhang) Newsgroups: comp.ai,talk.philosophy.misc,sci.lang Subject: Re: Categorization: Lakoff's mistake. Keywords: Reference Message-ID: <671@cogsci.ucsd.EDU> Date: 22 Dec 88 08:32:04 GMT References: <484@soleil.UUCP> <1654@hp-sdd.HP.COM> <1908@crete.cs.glasgow.ac.uk> <18@csd4.milw.wisc.edu> Organization: Institute for Cognitive Science, UC San Diego Lines: 98 In article <18@csd4.milw.wisc.edu>, markh@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Mark William Hopkins) writes: > I don't think it is even a challenge to the traditional view, when the view > is taken as an attempt to characterize human cognition. Well, I have to disagree with your claim. On the contrary, I think it is a challenge to the traditional view, especially when human cognition is concerned. > Lakoff's essential argument is that humans do not form categories whose > membership is based on necessary and sufficient conditions (the Classical > view of Categorization). As a basic fill-in-the-blank example consider a > category, whose members have a majority of the properties out of the three: > A, B, C. Lakoff asserts that this kind of category defies the Classical > view, because a given member need not have ANY of the three properties, nor > have them ALL though it would have most of them. None of the criteria is > necessary and none sufficient. > > Yet this kind of argument does not rule out the Classical view, because the > predicate: > (A and B) or (B and C) or (C and A) > > *IS* a necessary and sufficient condition for membership to such a class. > Forgetting about that magical word "or" is Lakoff's mistake. Or could it > be that the people who hold to the Classical view have also made the same > mistake of forgetting about that word? By assuming that: (1) classical view of categorization is the view that the membership of a category is based on necessary and sufficient conditions, (2) Lakoff thought that classical view was just the one you mentioned (actually he didn't), and (3) the ABC example you gave which you think Lakoff used to defy the classical view can be stated in a predicate which is a necessary and sufficient condition for the ABC class, you made the following claim: classical categorization theory CAN account for the phenomena which were considered as counter-examples for classical view by Lakoff and that Lakoff made a mistake by ignoring the magical word "or". Before I make comments, I think it is important to clarify what the classical view of categorization really is. There are three basic assumptions of the classical view: (1) summary representations: the representation of a concept is a summary description of an entire class, rather than a set of descriptions of various subsets or exemplars of the class. (2) Necessary and sufficient features: the features that represent a concept are (a) singly necessary and (b) jointly sufficient to define that concept. (3) Nesting of features in subset relations: if concept X is a subset of concept Y, the defining features of Y are nested in those of X. (For an extensive review and discussion about different views of categorization, see Medin & Smith's book Categories_and_Concepts.) Here comes my comments on your critique on Lakoff. (1) You assumed that the SECOND assumption of classical view is the one and only one assumption of classical view. This is a misunderstanding of classical view. (2) You even misunderstood the SECOND assumption of classical view. Yes, the predicate (A and B)or(B and C)or(C and A) is a necessary and sufficient CONDITION of the ABC class you gave, but it is NOT a necessary and sufficient FEATURE of that class. You confused CONDITION with FEATURE. Thus the predicate you gave is not relevant to the problem of categorization. (3) In fact, the example you gave is a disjunctive concept and its existence is a powerful argument used by people against classical view, because the second assumption of classical view excludes any disjunctive concept in classical categories. Disjunctive concepts can be accounted for by some alternative views of categorization such as probabilistic (or prototypic) view and examplar view, but these two views are also under criticism (Medin & Smith gave a good discussion about this). (4) As to the book, I think Women, Fire, and Dangerous Things is a profound one. Lakoff's critique on traditional view of language (Chomskian) is especially worth mentioning (other arguments on cognition in general are also interesting). His critique goes as follows (hope it is not a misuderstanding): (a) Formal-system view of language assumes that (i) language is independent of the rest of cognition, that is, language is a separate modular system independent of the rest of cognition, and (ii) categories are classical (that is, can be characterized by distinctive features so that formal operations can be possible). (b) Lakoff argued that (i) language makes use of our general cognitive apparatus, that is, language is not a modular system, and (ii) classical view of categorization can't account for a large amount of empirical data and thus is not adequate to serve as a fundamental assumption for a general theory of language. (c) Combine (a) and (b), Lakoff argued that traditional (or formal-system) view of language is wrong.