Xref: utzoo comp.ai:2968 talk.philosophy.misc:1763 sci.lang:3706 Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!iuvax!bondc From: bondc@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Clay M Bond) Newsgroups: comp.ai,talk.philosophy.misc,sci.lang Subject: Re: Categorization: Lakoff's mistake. Keywords: Reference Message-ID: <16020@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> Date: 25 Dec 88 13:11:32 GMT References: <484@soleil.UUCP> <1654@hp-sdd.HP.COM> <1908@crete.cs.glasgow.ac.uk> <151@feedme.UUCP> <719@quintus.UUCP> <18@csd4.milw.wisc.edu> <9402@bcsaic.UUCP> Reply-To: bondc@iuvax.UUCP (Clay M Bond) Organization: Indiana University CSCI, Bloomington Lines: 44 A classroom anecdote, inspired by the recent discussion of prototypes: My students, all being quite as brainwashed as anyone else by our educational system, were quite fond of the idea that everything could be packaged up in nice, discrete little units and manipulated mathe- matically. They liked the idea that everything was rule-governed, and when we started talking about cognition, I asked for a show of hands for the "Classical" theory of categorization. The vote "for" was unanimous, so I asked them to give me: a. The properties that all members of the category GLASS share; b. The properties that all members of the category CUP share; c. The properties which differentiate CUP from GLASS (courtesy of Labov.) They all seemed to think this was a brain-damaged idea, as simple as it seemed to them, and as they gave me properties, I wrote them on the board under their appropriate category labels. By the time five properties had been listed they were arguing about them and giving not only counter-examples, but alternative properties. By the time another four properties had been listed, we had to put up yet another category, MUG. And the argument could have lasted for days. They began the discussion thinking not only that the "Classical" system was correct, but also by logical extension, the more defining properties they gave, the more discrete and well-defined the categories would be. They left the classroom realizing that the categories were anything but discrete, and that the more properties they listed, the less discrete the categories became. Something else to put into the Classical pipe and smoke. -- << **********************DO***WHAT***THOU***WILT********************** >> << Clay Bond Indiana University Department of Leather, uh, Linguistics >> << bondc@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu AKA: Le Nouveau Marquis de Sade >> << {pur-ee,rutgers,pyramid,ames}!iuvax!bondc ************************* >>