Xref: utzoo comp.ai:2980 talk.philosophy.misc:1768 sci.lang:3755 Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!ames!pasteur!helios.ee.lbl.gov!nosc!humu!uhccux!lee From: lee@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Greg Lee) Newsgroups: comp.ai,talk.philosophy.misc,sci.lang Subject: Re: Categorization: Lakoff's mistake. Message-ID: <2897@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> Date: 29 Dec 88 18:34:16 GMT References: <671@cogsci.ucsd.EDU> Organization: University of Hawaii Lines: 22 From article <671@cogsci.ucsd.EDU>, by zhang@cogsci.ucsd.EDU (Jiajie Zhang): "[paraphrasing G. Lakoff] " (a) Formal-system view of language assumes that (i) language is " independent of the rest of cognition, that is, language is a separate " modular system independent of the rest of cognition, and (ii) " categories are classical (that is, can be characterized by distinctive " features so that formal operations can be possible). Isn't this a straw man (or men)? What do formal systems have to do with modules? Take, for instance, Montague grammar. Where is there any assumption made about language being a module separate from the rest of cognition? (Answer: nowhere.) Where are categories assumed to be classical? (Nowhere.) What do distinctive features have to do with the possibility of formal operations? (Nothing.) This stuff is just an unwarranted slander against formalism. Even a modularist would not take language to be *independent* of the rest of cognition -- rather a system with some *principles* that are independent. Greg, lee@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu