Xref: utzoo talk.philosophy.misc:1787 comp.ai:3017 sci.bio:1702 Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ames!hc!pprg.unm.edu!unmvax!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!soleil!peru From: peru@soleil.UUCP (Dave Peru) Newsgroups: talk.philosophy.misc,comp.ai,sci.bio Subject: RE: Artificial Intelligence and Intelligence (long) Message-ID: <558@soleil.UUCP> Date: 6 Jan 89 18:10:09 GMT Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Somerville, NJ Lines: 226 Please consider the following thoughts of three people concerning the physics of the mind. Notice the difference from the first person and the next two. COMPUTER SCIENTIST: In the book "The Society of Mind" Marvin Minsky writes (p.50): "When people have no answers to important questions, they often give some anyway. What controls the brain? The Mind. What controls the mind? The Self. What controls the Self? Itself. To help us think about how our minds are connected to the outer world, our culture teaches schemes like this: (diagram ...) This diagram depicts our sensory machinery as sending information to the brain, wherein it is projected on some inner mental movie screen. Then, inside that ghostly theater, a lurking Self observes the scene and then considers what to do. Finally, that Self may act--somehow reversing all those steps--to influence the real world by sending various signals back through yet another family of remote-control accessories. This concept simply doesn't work. It cannot help for you to think that inside yourself lies someone else who does your work. This notion of "hommunculus"--a little person inside each self--leads only to a paradox since, then, that inner Self requires yet another movie screen inside itself, on which to project what *it* has seen! And then, to watch that play-within-a-play, we'd need yet another Self-inside-a-Self--to do the thinking for the last. And then this would all repeat again, as each new Self requires yet another one to do its job! The idea of a single, central Self doesn't explain anything. This is because a thing with no parts provides nothing that we can use as pieces of explanation! Then why do we so often embrace the strange idea that what we do is done by Someone Else--that is, our Self? Because so much of what our minds do is hidden from the parts of us that are involved with verbal consciousness." MATHEMATICIAN/PHYSICIST/ASTRONOMY: In the book "Bridges To Infinity" Michael Guillen (Ph.D in physics, mathema- matics, and astronomy from Cornell University) writes (p.98): "In his thirteen-page manuscript, "All Numbers, Great and Small," Conway begins as Frege began, with a few primitive ideas, including the null set and two rules. The first rule, Conway's logical definition of a number, can be visualized in terms of encyclopedia volumes lined up in order in a library shelf. According to the definition, a volume's place in the lineup, its number, can be inferred from the set of volumes on its left and the set of volumes on its right. We could determine where volume nine belongs, for instance, simply by locating that place where volumes zero through eight are on the left and volumes ten through infinity are on the right. Therefore, every volume, every number, has its own niche, determined uniquely by the left and right sets. That's the thrust of Conway's first rule. His second rule, again explained here in terms of a set of encyclopedias, decrees that one number, such as 5, is smaller than (or equal to) another number, such as 9, if two things are true simultaneously: (A) all the volumes to the left of the first number (5) are less than the second number (9), and (B) all the volumes to the right of the second number (9) are bigger than the first number (5). This rule is necessary in order for Conway to impose an order on the numbers he creates, beginning with zero: Zero is less than 1, so it precedes 1; 1 is less than 2, so it precedes 2; and so forth. As he does not assume the existence of any numbers to begin with, Conway, like Frege, has only the null set with which to start creating the sequence of natural numbers. Consequently, Conway first contemplates the number whos left and right sets are both null sets, written symbolically as {}:{}, He names this *zero*. That is, in Conway's theory, as in Frege's, nothingness is the most primitive realization of nothing. After creating the number zero, Conway has two sets with which to continue creating numbers: the null set, {}, and the set containing zero, {0}. Conway identifies the number 1 as the number whose left set contains zero and whose right set is the null set. Thus, at this point in Conway's genesis, the number 1 is flanked to the left by nothingness and to the right by nothing. To the left is potential already realized (as zero), and to the right is potential not yet realized. At each point in his creation, Conway always selects the next number as the number as the number whose left set contains all the previously created numbers and whose right set is the null set. It's as though he were being guided by an image of those encyclopedias. At each point, the newly created volume is placed to the right of all those volumes already shelved and to the left of empty space, which in this analogy has the aspect of the physicist's vacuum in representing the potential of numbers not yet brought into being. By proceeding in this fashion indefinitely, Conway creates the entire sequence of natural numbers. From there he goes on, however, to create an infinity of in-between numbers, such as the number whose left set contains zero, {0}, and whose right set contains one through infinity {1, 2, 3, ...}. This defines a number somewhere between zero and one. Thus the standard set of encyclopedias, the natural numbers, is embellished by an interminable number of in-between volumes. And it doesn't stop there. Pursuing the logic of his method, Conway is able to create between in-between numbers, then numbers between *these*, and so on, literally ad infinitum. The result is limitless hierarchies of in-between numbers, never before named in mathematics. Conway's theory has ineffable graphic implications as well. Traditional mathematical wisdom has it that a ruler's edge, a number line, is a blur of points, each of which can be labeled with either a whole number, a fraction, or an irrational number such as .1345792 ..., where the string of digits goes on forever. All these points (or their numerical labels) together are imagined to form a continuum, with no space between adjacent points. Conway's theory, however, asks us to imagine numbers that fall somehow between unimaginable cracks in this blur of points, and between the cracks left behind by those numbers, and so on and so on. With his theory, Conway has made credible what many persons before him had merely speculated about: there is conceptually no limit to how many times an object can be divided. Conway's "All Numbers, Great and Small" shows off the boundless potential of the null set, but also of the human mind. Human creative energy, like nothing, isn't anything if it isn't potential. It is also an indomitable part of being alive, as countless experiments have documented. People who are deprived of their senses by being floated in silent, dark tanks of water warmed to body temperature will hallucinate. It is as though the human mind will not be stilled of its propensity to make something of nothing even, or especially, when immersed in nothingness. Like a physicist's vacuum, the human mind can be induced to create thoughts that come seemingly out of nowhere. Mathematicians over the years have documented this common phenomenon. The German Carl Friedrich Gauss recalled that he had tried unsuccessfully for years to prove a particular theorem in arithmetic, and then, after days of not thinking about the problem, the solution came to him "like a sudden flash of lightning." The French mathematician Henri Poincare, too, reported working futilely on a problem for months. Then one day while conversing with a friend about a totally unrelated subject, Poincare recalled that "... the idea came to me without anything in my former thoughts seeming to have paved the way for it." In this sense, the human mind is the real null set in Frege's and Conway's number theories; the mathematical null set is but a subordinate entity created after the mind's self-image." PHYSICIST: In the book "The Turning Point" Fritjof Capra (Ph.D in high-energy physics from University of Vienna) writes (p.101): "While the new physics was developing in the twentieth century, the mechanistic Cartesian world view and the principles of Newtonian physics maintained their strong influence on Western scientific thinking, and even today many scientists still hold to the mechanistic paradigm, although physicists themselves have gone beyond it. ... In biology the Cartesian view of living organisms as machines, constructed from separate parts, still provides the dominant conceptual framework. Although Descartes' simple mechanistic biology could not be carried very far and had to be modified considerably during the subsequent three hundred years, the belief that all aspects of living organisms can be understood by reducing them to their smallest constituents, and by studying the mechanisms through which these interact, lies at the very basis of most contemporary biological thinking. This passage from a current textbook on modern biology is clear expression of the reductionist credo: 'One of the acid tests of understanding an object is the ability to put it together from its component parts. Ultimately, molecular biologists will attempt to subject their understanding of cell structure and function to this sort of test by trying to synthesize a cell.' Although the reductionist approach has been extremely successful in biology, culminating in the understanding of the chemical nature of genes, the basic units of heredity, and in the unraveling of the genetic code, it nevertheless has its severe limitations. As the eminent biologist Paul Weiss has observed: We can assert definitely ... on the basis of strictly empirical investiga- tions, that the sheer reversal of our prior analytic dissection of the universe by putting the pieces together again, whether in reality of just in our minds, can yield no complete explanation of the behavior of even the most elementary living system. This is what most contemporary biologists find hard to admit. Carried away by the success of the reductionist method, most notable recently in the field of genetic engineering, they tend to believe that it is the only valid approach, and they have organized biological research accordingly. Students are not encouraged to develop integrative concepts, and research institutions direct their funds almost exclusively to ward the solution of problems formulated within the Cartesian framework. Biological phenomena that cannot be explained in reductionist terms are deemed unworthy of scientific investigation. Consequently biologists have developed very curious ways of dealing with living organisms. As the distinguished biologist and human ecologist Rene Dubos has pointed out, they usually feel most at ease when the thing they are studying is no longer living. ... An extreme case of integrative activity that has fascinated scientists throughout the ages but has, so far, eluded all explanation is the phenome- non of embryogenesis--the formation and development of the embryo--which involves an orderly series of processes through which cells specialize to form the different tissues and organs of the adult body. The interaction of each cell with its environment is crucial to these processes, and the whole phenomenon is a result of the integral coordinating activity of the entire organism--a process far too complex to lend itself to reductionist analysis. Thus embryogenesis is considered a highly interesting but quite unrewarding topic for biological research. ... Transcending the Cartesian model will amount to a major revolution in medical science, and since current medical research is closely linked to research in biology--both conceptually and in its organization--such a revolution is bound to have a strong impact on the further development of biology." *** I think it is quite interesting that "The Turning Point" was published before "The Society of Mind" in reference to Fritjof Capra's comment, "and even today many scientists still hold to the mechanistic paradigm." Paradoxically, these three people's thoughts may sound unrelated. It is up to you to decide, any comments?