Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!munnari!murtoa.cs.mu.oz.au!cs.mu.oz.au!kre From: kre@cs.mu.oz.au (Robert Elz) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans Subject: Re: Token Ring (was: Re: Info on LANs) Message-ID: <1145@murtoa.cs.mu.oz.au> Date: 3 Jan 89 13:00:50 GMT References: <12786@cup.portal.com> <920001@hposdl.HP.COM> <10777@s.ms.uky.edu> <13137@bellcore.bellcore.com> Sender: news@cs.mu.oz.au Lines: 23 In article <13137@bellcore.bellcore.com>, karn@ka9q.bellcore.com (Phil Karn) writes: > (The only time Ethernet *does* silently drop packets is when > the destination host is down or somebody pulls the plug on an intervening > repeater ...) This is not quite true, ethernets drop packets when the receiving controller isn't fast enough to handle the incoming packet rate. This, and the independant ability to determine if the addressed host is up and running, are probably the only real uses of the frame status byte. > I suspect you are referring to Logical Link Control Type 2 No he's not, that does protocol level acks, and the received bit in the transmitted packet doesn't help at all. As you, and others, have pointed out, all real protocols do acks in packets (and that includes all the ISO stuff) .. apart from anything else these acks serve as flow control, which (at least at any level beyond the controller), the frame copied bit doesn't. kre