Xref: utzoo sci.math:5245 comp.edu:1686 sci.physics:5321 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!actnyc!jsb From: jsb@actnyc.UUCP (The Invisible Man) Newsgroups: sci.math,comp.edu,sci.physics Subject: Re: Public Education is a Fraud Summary: You can't cheat an honest man. Message-ID: <1124@actnyc.UUCP> Date: 23 Dec 88 16:35:35 GMT References: <7.UUL1.3#913@acw.UUCP> <4463@sfsup.UUCP> Reply-To: jsb@actnyc.UUCP (The Invisible Man) Followup-To: comp.edu Organization: Diet Software Lines: 31 )In article <7.UUL1.3#913@acw.UUCP> scott@acw.UUCP (Scott Guthery) writes: ):: Teachers succeed without teaching and students succeed without learning. ):: Is there really any question why there's no education going on in our ):: education system? ):: ):: A teacher's only use for students to get money out of taxpayers. The ):: more money they get, the less they teach. Once they get tenure or graduate ):: into administration, they do nothing useful at all. $300 billion/year we [ more of the same deleted] In article <4463@sfsup.UUCP> dwd@/guestc/dwdUUCP (45421-D.W.Dougherty) writes: )I believe that load and fanatic applause is appropriate here!! Clearly, writing skills are poorly taught. ;-) The fact is that teaching is not valued; at least not in the USofA. The day I quit teaching to become a computer consultant I doubled my salary. I've since doubled it again. The ones who remain behind tend to be those who can't make it in the real world. I'm speaking here of institutions geared for teaching. At those geared for research, teaching is often a chore delegated to those without political pull or seniority to avoid it. Ability to teach rarely enters into the equation. I am, of course, speaking in generalities. There are numerous exceptions. The point is that we get what we pay for. The 'fraud' is being perpetrated on ourselves. As W.C. Fields said, "You can't cheat an honest man." -- Spaffords Axiom: "The Usenet is not the real world. The Usenet usually does not even resemble the real world." jim (uunet!actnyc!jsb)