Xref: utzoo comp.edu:1690 sci.math:5248 sci.physics:5329 Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!ncrlnk!ncr-sd!hp-sdd!ucsdhub!ucrmath!marek From: marek@ucrmath.EDU (Marek Chrobak) Newsgroups: comp.edu,sci.math,sci.physics Subject: Re: Student preparedness Message-ID: <605@ucrmath.EDU> Date: 25 Dec 88 23:28:07 GMT References: <4893@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> <6435@killer.DALLAS.TX.US> <9238@ihlpb.ATT.COM> <1077@l.cc.purdue.edu> Reply-To: marek@ucrmath.UUCP (Marek Chrobak) Organization: University of California, Riverside Lines: 62 In article <1077@l.cc.purdue.edu> cik@l.cc.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes: > >Teaching means presenting the WHY, not the HOW. It is very difficult to teach >the why to students who are not research caliber who already know the how. >A lecture has been defined as material going from the lecturer's notes to >the auditors' notes, without passing through the minds of either. I once >made the mistake of asking a question with such a lecturer. He could not >teach, he could only present. Too many students want such garbage. We >should not oblige them. >-- >Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907 How true and how sad. I have once tried to do something with this habit of "xeroxing" a lecture, by following very closely a textbook, so that the students do not have to take too much notes, and may have more time to think in class. Once they noted that I follow the book, half of them stopped to come to class at all. In the other half this xeroxing habit was yet stronger than I thought, they were still copying every word I said. What I find quite irritiating, is when the students at the beginning of a course, ask whether I will do proofs. I remember the first time it happened to me, I simply did not understand the question. How can one teach math without proofs at all? Mathematics is more in proofs than theorems. But what the math education here seems to accomplish is to reverse this completely. Math is taught as a set of magic rules, which have to be followed with precision and veneration. Of course, this is all "true", because the professors say so. And it's in the book, anyway. They would not lie in print would they? The students know that the proofs, these scary complicated things, exist somewhere but they are just some technical and messy explanations of what everybody knows anyway, so why to bother at all. They not just don't understand the proofs, they do not even feel the NEED of a proof. In Herman's terms, the question WHY does not cross their mind. They just want to know HOW. It would be silly to blame the students for this. This is the way they have been taught in school, it's no wonder this is what they expect from college. My daughter is in the second grade now. All math she has been taught so far is addition and subtraction, for numbers smaller than 100 of course. This is already a year and a half of addition and subtraction. She is studying also from second-grade textbooks we received from Poland. At her age children there have already some understanding of elementary notions in set theory: sets and operations on sets. In the second grade, they are already taugth solving linear equations. Arithmetic is taught on a way, it's derived, in a way, from sets, and is regarded rather as a necessary tool, not the goal. Every exercise in a book is a real pearl, requires a little bit of thinking, just enough for a kid, but also enough to live a trace and teach something. And still, this is all entertaining enough, so that even if it's not really fun, it's surely less boring that hundreds of additions and subtractions. I wonder what will they cover in her school later this year, will they teach numbers greater than 100, or start multiplication? Marek