Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!ucsd!ucbvax!UDEL.EDU!Mills From: Mills@UDEL.EDU Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: mil stds vs. rfc's Message-ID: <8812271635.aa12571@Huey.UDEL.EDU> Date: 27 Dec 88 21:35:05 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 27 Merton, DCA funded the effort as a task order, which was subcontracted to various parties. The prime contractor was to formulate specific amendments to the MIL-STD-1777 and -1778, documents (which the prime contractor in fact wrote). but so far as I know was not to redraft the documents themselves. The subcontractors submitted rough-draft proposals, which were then redrafted into a report and submitted to DCA. While it is not clear in what form that report was submitted, at least some of the proposals made it out to the community for discussion and comment. I remember a series of amendments to the ICMP RFC which were managed in this way. Somewhere in my 20,000- message mail archives scattered over three TOPS-20s, several Unix systems and a Fuzzball in a pear tree is a massive message containing the dozens of messages contributed to this effort. In a day or two I might even be able to excavate that treasure from the mounds of dusty archive tapes and then it might take me much longer than that. I don't relish that chore and I suppose the prime contractor doesn't either, especially since the knowledgable people and bit buckets have probably since gone on to a better life. While I am no defender of the Government contracting process (having done my own bit in that area), I don't think the prime contractor, the subcontractors or DCA did anything specifically wrong. I would, however, like to yet and once again plead to the DCA protocol standards committees that information such as this should be routinely shared with the IETF and given the widest possible distribution. Dave