Xref: utzoo comp.sources.d:3176 news.groups:6767 news.software.b:1841 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!netsys!netsys1!len From: len@netsys1.netsys.COM (Len Rose) Newsgroups: comp.sources.d,news.groups,news.software.b Subject: Re: comp.datasets Call For Discussion Summary: There are other considerations Message-ID: <4@netsys1.netsys.COM> Date: 7 Jan 89 16:06:35 GMT References: <1249@fig.bbn.com> <1280@vsi1.UUCP> <151@cjsa.WA.COM> <394@ispi.UUCP> <6182@hoptoad.uucp> Organization: Netsys,Inc. Lines: 23 In article <6182@hoptoad.uucp>, gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) writes: # We'd have to determine the impact on old-news, NNTP, notes, Fidonet, # and other sites that netnews gateways to, but certainly we can start # with real binaries in a comp.data newsgroup (or alt.data), and folks whose # software can't handle it should simply not receive the newsgroup. If # it works out, it can be expanded to more newsgroups or to the whole net. The problem is that certain modem pools,ISN's,and the like simply cannot handle 8 bit data.. All I ask is that there still be some vehicle to allow encoding into 7 bit ascii. # We are close to the point where we can rely on there being a full 8-bit # data path. It's time to say "folks who don't provide 8 bits must # encode 8-bit data while in transit" rather than "we'll all live with 7 # bits forever and uuencode everything". Just a leetle push now will save # us a *lot* of trouble. Thus by one stroke you knock off many sites that depend on 7 bit data transfers. The argument that the folks who rely on 7 bit data transfer schemes,can adapt is or stop receiving news is unrealistic and unfair. Surely we can add provisions for 7 bit encoding so that less fortunate sites can still be a part of the community.