Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ames!oliveb!sun!pepper!cmcmanis From: cmcmanis%pepper@Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: CheapNet Message-ID: <84395@sun.uucp> Date: 8 Jan 89 07:31:15 GMT References: <8901062235.AA12520@jade.berkeley.edu> Sender: news@sun.uucp Reply-To: cmcmanis@sun.UUCP (Chuck McManis) Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View Lines: 27 [Interesting article deleted, see the reference if you need to refresh your memory :-)] Another suggestion (I know superflouous) why make the Amiga do the actual networking? Build a "network tap" out of a Z80, SCC, 2kRAM, and 2k Eprom. (SCC = Serial Communications Controller). This requires 8 chips, 10 capacitors, 2 resistors, and 1 crystal. Since the serial controller can talk Appletalk (Apple uses the same one) and the parts to the whole system cost less than $25 retail you have a good start. The SCC has two serial ports, make one "appletalk" compatible with the RJ-11 connector, the other you can connect to the Amiga. Have the Z80 handle the CD/CSMA aspects of the network. You may want to replace the 2k ram chip with an 8k ram chip (32k is also available) that would raise the price by $5. The Z80 needs only 4 commands available SET Address, Send Status, Send Packet, and reset. The latter can be connected to the DTR line of the serial port for ease of use. Since there is some RAM on the "tap" you needn't worry to much about interrupt latency, and the SCC chip already knows how to do SDLC type framing so you are pretty much 60% there. Final suggestion, don't reinvent the wheel on protocols. Check out Comer's book or Tannenbaums book on networking and go for it. --Chuck McManis uucp: {anywhere}!sun!cmcmanis BIX: cmcmanis ARPAnet: cmcmanis@sun.com These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you.