Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!rutgers!ucsd!ames!amdahl!fai!ronc
From: ronc@fai.UUCP (Ronald O. Christian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: why no native unix??
Message-ID: <1320@fai.UUCP>
Date: 22 Dec 88 17:56:02 GMT
References: <18@draci.cs.uow.oz> <3ff525ae.14df5@ulsoy.engin.umich.edu> <1270@fai.UUCP> <404beb83.b263@hi-csc.UUCP> <1304@fai.UUCP> <4064e4b7.87ad@apollo.COM>
Reply-To: ronc@fai.fai.com (Ronald O. Christian)
Organization: Fujitsu America, Inc.
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In article <4064e4b7.87ad@apollo.COM> rimbold@apollo.com (Robert Rimbold) writes:
>In article <1304@fai.UUCP> ronc@fai.fai.com (Ronald O. Christian) writes:
>>In article <404beb83.b263@hi-csc.UUCP> giebelhaus@hi-csc.UUCP (Timothy R. Giebelhaus) writes:
>>>*** I personally would load up the Aegis, though.  Not because the
>>>DOMAIN/OS UNIX is incomplete, but because I don't see any reason
>>>to deny myself all the extra tools Aegis provides the UNIX user.
>>
>>This defeats the purpose:  Consistency of interface is a key issue.
>
>I believe that you missed the point. If you wish to have a BSD4.3 *ONLY*
>system, you can do that.

I did not miss the point.  Tim said (right up there) that I should
load Aegis anyway because of all the nifty extra tools.  But I can
not provide those tools, no matter how nifty, on just one type of
machine.  You see an office environment with row upon row of Apollos.
I see an environment with a *very* mixed bag of hardware and Unix
flavors, of which Apollo plays (used to play) a very small part.

>The same also applies to SYSV and Aegis. You
>may configure the system with any combination of operating systems, and
>only the operating systems that you load will be available.

But according to folks in this very newsgroup, even if I only load
BSD, I have to use Apollo designed utilities for things like password
administration and backups.  Do you deny this?

>Tim's point was that our hardware supports three different operating
>systems, which only makes it easier to use. If all three environments
>have been loaded, then you may pick which environment you wish to use
>on a per-shell basis. 

No, that's *your* point.  Tim likes the Aegis utilities, and recommended
I load them.  I explained why that would be an administrative nightmare.



				Ron
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      Ronald O. Christian (Fujitsu America Inc., San Jose, Calif.)
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