Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!peregrine!elroy!ames!haven!mimsy!tank!nic.MR.NET!umn-d-ub!umn-cs!bungia!orbit!pnet51!shawn From: shawn@pnet51.cts.com (Shawn Stanley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: RE: Re: Apple // manuals Message-ID: <431@orbit.UUCP> Date: 23 Dec 88 19:45:19 GMT Sender: root@orbit.UUCP Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN. Lines: 21 ALBRO@NIEHS.BITNET writes: >In reply to David Kletter's comment that Apple buyers of the present are not >programmer/hobbiests like those of the 70's and therefore don't need the >Apple technical references, may I suggest that those of the 70's weren't >either until they read the manuals that came with the Apples in the days of >the II+ and were stimulated to BECOME hobbiest/programmers? Apple's current >manuals actively DISCOURAGE interest in understanding the machine or the >programs. This is a mistake they will pay for in the future when there are >few if any new Apple programmers to maintain the program market. > >Phil Albro Just an observation here... when the Apple II appeared in the high schools, we did of course have the earlier versions that started up in monitor mode. This made myself and others rather curious, and we played with things in monitor mode extensively, in addition to hand-assembling little programs. I >think< that booting into monitor mode might have been a motivating factor, silly as it seems. UUCP: {rosevax, crash}!orbit!pnet51!shawn INET: shawn@pnet51.cts.com