Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!iuvax!rutgers!bellcore!texbell!uhnix1!sugar!peter From: peter@sugar.uu.net (Peter da Silva) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Atari-bashing (was Re: Looking for an Evangelist) Message-ID: <3161@sugar.uu.net> Date: 27 Dec 88 15:44:20 GMT References: <474@ur-cc.UUCP> <6847@spool.cs.wisc.edu> <12835@cup.portal.com> Organization: Sugar Land Unix - Houston, TX Lines: 39 In article <12835@cup.portal.com>, Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com writes: > A.J. Yarusso writes: > >Most people who criticize Atari's don't have an Atari and are VERY > >biased... oh well, such is life. Well, I own two Atari 800s and an Amiga 1000. I have had an Atari 520ST and an MS-DOS machine (Tandy 1000HD). By that logic I should be unbiased and have an evenly balanced viewpoint. I don't. My opinion of the Atari ST, due to my experience with mine, is that it is a poorly-thought-out hack, and the spiritual descendant of the Commodore-64. It's worse than teh C=64, because much of that machines limitations are the result of when and how it was produced. When the ST came out, there were at least two decent operating systems for the 68000 available: OS/9 and Tripos. Why they went with Gem-DOS I have no idea. Programming on the ST is exactly like programming on the IBM-PC, except that there are fewer tools available, and more bugs to work around. After a couple of months of struggling the ST went into storage and I financed an Amiga. > the true problem... the manufacturer of what is arguably the BEST value > in low cost computers does NOT, for whatever reason, tell the world about > their machines. It falls to "evangalists" to spread the word, and it's > an uphill battle.. That's true. Commodore has done a lousy job of advertising the Amiga. How nice of you to notice. (Yes, I know he's talking about the ST. I don't know why... Atari has done a very good job advertising the ST, with much more frequent and affective advertisements than Commodore) > Among people who DO own Atari computers, you'll ALMOST NEVER hear them > criticize the MACHINE itself... Well, you've heard it now. The hardware is unexceptional, and the operating system (if you can call it that) is only exceptional in its intellectual poverty. If it had been well designed in the first place, people wouldn't need to make the sorts of hacks that Allan Pratt so despises. -- Peter "Have you hugged your wolf today" da Silva `-_-' peter@sugar.uu.net