Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!hplabs!hpda!hpcuhb!hpsmtc1!dlw From: dlw@hpsmtc1.HP.COM (David L. Williams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: multitasking and IPC (was: System 8.0: no more DA's.) Message-ID: <11540172@hpsmtc1.HP.COM> Date: 29 Dec 88 03:02:34 GMT References: <1988Dec16.191309.21623@cs.rochester.edu> Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino Lines: 34 >And Hmm...let's try that again: >"UNIX: the only operating system which has enough power and flexibility that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yeah, so where are all the great applications for us to use? UNIX is what 17+ years old has supposedly the most powerful development tools in the universe yet there doesn't seem to be a group of sexy, easy to use, fun applications. X and NeWS are still in there infancy and just as bad to program for as the mac is. UNIX as an OS still isn't the same on everyone's box witness OSF and the Unix International war. >someone could write a worm powerfull enough to dynamically move itself from >machine to machine in a heterogeneous environment." >Not necessarily the best use of that power, but a demonstration of it ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yeah, but it seems to be about the only thing coming out of the "BEST" and "brightest" in the UNIX community. Sure more powerful hypertext systems have been developed at universities and thinktanks, but how many of them are available for me to purchase TODAY? I get a nice one for free from Apple, now. I get a great development environment from Symantec for about $100, that is fast and much each easier to use than ol cc and make are, let alone trying to figure out how to use a symbolic source level debugger. Where is this for UNIX? Sendmail and anon ftp still have backdoors in them? Yeesh, yuck ptooi! I'll take the ol Mac La Bomba over some dweeb grad student bringing the network to its knees. Whats lurking in uucp we don't know about? Don't get me wrong I like usenet/ARPA and notes..AHA I have found an application on UNIX I like! >nonetheless. perhaps "UNIX: the only operating system that hasn't realized its full potential" David L. Williams