Xref: utzoo comp.sys.next:1145 comp.sys.mac:24715 comp.cog-eng:817 Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!killer!ames!ucsd!nosc!humu!uhccux!lee From: lee@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Greg Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.mac,comp.cog-eng Subject: Re: Sorry, no PDP (or any other) speech recognition yet Message-ID: <2934@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> Date: 5 Jan 89 11:16:56 GMT References: <18726@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Organization: University of Hawaii Lines: 22 From article <18726@agate.BERKELEY.EDU>, by csm@violet.berkeley.edu: " In article <679@cogsci.ucsd.EDU> norman@cogsci.UUCP (Donald A Norman-UCSD Cog Sci Dept) writes: " >... "new display" and "nudist play" ... " " In southern CA people often ask: " "Djagotoessee?" Similarly, "Judas get up?" = Did you just get up?. It may be that the spectra of "new display" and "nudist play" can appear essentially identical, but for many, the "d" part of "nudist" is articulated differently (very short) and the diphthong of "new" is appreciably longer than that of "nu". These kinds of phonetic details are at least partially law-like and predictable. A substantial amount of work has been done to understand them in the last century (but much earlier in India). It's disappointing that some (most?) contemporary work in speech recognition seems innocent of this body of scholarship. I guess the idea is that computation can substitute for understanding. Maybe. I have my doubts. Greg, lee@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu