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From: merrill@bucasb (John Merrill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.mac,comp.cog-eng
Subject: Re: Sorry, no PDP (or any other) speech recognition yet
Keywords: dipthong
Message-ID: <600105990.19551@bucasb.bu.edu>
Date: 6 Jan 89 16:06:30 GMT
References: <18726@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> <2934@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> <84021@sun.uucp>
Reply-To: merrill@bucasb (John Merrill)
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Organization: Boston University Center for Adaptive Systems
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In-reply-to: landman%hanami@Sun.COM (Howard A. Landman)

In article <84021@sun.uucp>, landman%hanami (Howard A. Landman) writes:
>In article <2934@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> lee@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Greg Lee) writes:
>>the diphthong of "new" is appreciably longer than that of "nu".
>
>Huh?  There *IS* *NO* dipthong in "new" or "nu", in any dialect of English
>that I know.  Did you perhaps just mean vowel?

No, he meant dipthong.  There are dialects of English in which the
word "new" is clearly pronounced "n[y]u", while the Greek letter "nu"
is not.

I am not *aware* of a difference between the vowels in my own
idiolect, and I percieve them both as pure---at least, insofar as any
speaker of Midwestern American English can be said to have a pure
vowel in any word she speaks.  Greg, is your claim based on phonetic
measurements, and, if so, what dialect did the speaker(s) use?

(Follow-ups to sci.lang, please; this is way far afield from NeXT
boxes, or even cognitive engineering.)
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