Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!encore!bzs From: bzs@Encore.COM (Barry Shein) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: [Lynn R Grant: Password Aging] Message-ID: <4511@xenna.Encore.COM> Date: 28 Dec 88 22:24:55 GMT References: <17981@adm.BRL.MIL> <4506@xenna.Encore.COM> <11048@ulysses.homer.nj.att.com> Organization: Encore Computer Corp, Marlboro, MA Lines: 17 In-reply-to: smb@ulysses.homer.nj.att.com's message of 28 Dec 88 20:37:03 GMT Posting-Front-End: GNU Emacs 18.41.15 of Tue Jun 9 1987 on xenna (berkeley-unix) From: smb@ulysses.homer.nj.att.com (Steven M. Bellovin) >The DoD reasoning is fairly simple: they want to prevent brute-force >attacks on a particular password. I don't have their booklet handy, >but they show you how to work through the calculations. Figure out >how many possible passwords there are, and assume some value (which >I believe they supply) for the time to make one trial. That gives you >an upper bound on how long a particular password is secure. The aging >constant is set to be some small fraction of that time. We just did this, lessee, 100 character set, 8 chars, 100^8, assume 10,000 encryptions per second is a good upper bound (we'll take a small fraction in a moment) and, lessee, I get 31,709 years, divide by 100 (that's a small fraction, no?) I guess I age my password every 317 years, oh, what the hell, once per century just to be safe. -Barry Shein, ||Encore||