Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-ncis!helios.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!ucbvax!decwrl!cookie.dec.com!devine From: devine@cookie.dec.com (Bob Devine) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: Password security (really VMS password encryption) Message-ID: <8901060328.AA21716@decwrl.dec.com> Date: 6 Jan 89 04:20:00 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 15 John Haugh writes: > This reminds me - old VAX/VMS used CRC16 to encrypt their passwords. > Which is about as multi-way as it gets ... This would mean, if correct, > that only 65,536 different passwords [...] No, the original VMS encryption algorithm was called "AUTODIN 2". Essentially it hashed the password into a 32 bit quantity. There were a couple problems with it: 32 bits wasn't enough to prevent several passwords generating the same hash value; and it was too fast. A brute force attack would work. The current algorithm is called the "Purdy" algorithm. It runs about 100 times slower than the other plus it uses a 64 bit value. Bob Devine