Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!vsi!friedl
From: friedl@vsi.COM (Stephen J. Friedl)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards
Subject: Re: modern terminals (was: printf, data presentation)
Summary: Naive or elitist?
Message-ID: <1000@vsi.COM>
Date: 8 Jan 89 01:08:09 GMT
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Organization: V-Systems, Inc. -- Santa Ana, CA
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Doug Gwyn writes:
>
> Fine, if you make it a Teletype model 630.  If an employee isn't worth
> investing $2K for dramatically improved productivity then I feel sorry
> for the employer.

Followed shortly thereafter by Griff Smith:
> 
> I don't think Doug is dreaming; if you're stuck with an old
> 24x80 non-windowed terminal, it's more like a nightmare.

It's time for a reality break.  You guys need to venture out of
your labs and see how The Real World(tm) operates for a change.

Clearly, a windowed terminal will dramatically improve productivity
for many.  You don't have to convince me that a bitmapped
interface is wonderful because I am already in complete agreement
with you.  I want a 630 and will likely get one or two soon.

I don't agree, however, with the implication that character
terminals are generally obsolete: I say you people are either
naive or elitist (or both).  I know it will pain you greatly,
but programmers are *vastly* in the minority in The Real World.

At least two of my customers run applications where the data-
entry operators can input, nearly error-free, on their number
pads for a long time without looking up from their work -- they
simply don't look at the screen.  A recent application uses a
line-oriented printf/fgets loop because the customer insisted
that anything more was overkill.  It turned out he was absolutely
right, and we saved a ton of develoment time and everything runs
more efficiently without the overhead of a fullscreen interface.
"Productive" also means that the machine have a fast response
time.

For these customers, the difference between a $500 Wyse terminal
and the $1500 Blit means the difference between getting twelve
terminals and getting four.  How productive would *you* be if
your terminal was on your officemate's desk?  How about across
the hall?

Does anybody out there seriously think that a Blit at the counter
of a Dept of Motor Vehicles clerk would make him/her any more
productive?  *THREE TIMES* more productive?  Gee, if we gave them
a *Sun* then there would be no more lines, right?

Sorry guys, but all The Real World's not a Blit.

     Steve (working a very nice TeleVideo 9220)

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