Xref: utzoo comp.unix.wizards:13850 news.admin:4448 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mcvax!hp4nl!ruuinf!piet From: piet@ruuinf (Piet van Oostrum) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards,news.admin Subject: Re: Password security - Another idea Message-ID: <949@ruuinf.UUCP> Date: 4 Jan 89 13:27:57 GMT References: <228@sea375.UUCP> <4497@xenna.Encore.COM> <2271@pompeii.cs.swarthmore.edu> <230@ibd.BRL.MIL> <946@ruuinf.UUCP> <10629@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US> Sender: piet@ruuinf.UUCP Reply-To: piet@ruuinf (Piet van Oostrum) Followup-To: comp.unix.wizards Organization: Dept of Computer Science, University of Utrecht, Holland Lines: 16 In-reply-to: jfh@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US (The Beach Bum) In article <10629@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US>, jfh@rpp386 (The Beach Bum) writes: ` `No - you are still only storing 56 bits of password data. What you `are doing is providing a multi-way encryption algorithm, you are not `expanding the key space. ` `Since there are only 2^56 possible outputs, and 2^132 inputs, some of `them must map onto other encrypted passwords - a multi-way encryption. ` You are right, only it is 2^64 (the key for DES is 56 bits, but the output is 64 bits), so this still gives an 8 bit improvement, making it 128 times as hard. -- Piet van Oostrum, Dept of Computer Science, University of Utrecht Padualaan 14, P.O. Box 80.089, 3508 TB Utrecht, The Netherlands Telephone: +31-30-531806 UUCP: ...!mcvax!hp4nl!ruuinf!piet