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From: dswise@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu
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Subject: Re: New advertising group -- I recommen
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Date: 5 Jan 89 17:26:00 GMT
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As moderator of comp.lang.sigplan, I did not receive a copy of this
base note by Email.  It was just called to my attention by a third party.
I do not usually read news.admin.

ACM is a non-profit organization.
SIGPLAN is one of its largest and most active Special Interest Groups,
publishing 2054 newsletter pages in FY'88.  Needless to say, SIGPLAN
loses money on every membership it sells.  Moreover, page count is
rising and membership dues are falling, so members' value for dues
continues to increase.  The difference comes from running extraordinarily
successful meetings, which generate post-conference proceedings sales.

For-profit publishers pay taxes and retain income from
post-conference sales.  SIGPLAN and its sister societies do not.

Mr. Gilmore objects to advertising such an organization.
He certainly has that privilege at his site, but Usenet may have something
to say about his censoring the newsgroup from his corner of the net.
This group was created according to net policy (summary of vote follows),
and some of its proponents may suffer from Mr. Gilmore's respect for the vote.