Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!pacbell!ames!lll-lcc!lll-ncis!helios.ee.lbl.gov!nosc!humu!uhccux!lee From: lee@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Greg Lee) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Thought/Emotion/Feeling Message-ID: <2986@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> Date: 11 Jan 89 13:11:02 GMT References: <1994@cadre.dsl.PITTSBURGH.EDU> Organization: University of Hawaii Lines: 17 From article <1994@cadre.dsl.PITTSBURGH.EDU>, by geb@cadre.dsl.PITTSBURGH.EDU (Gordon E. Banks): " ... I would bet " that many of the great apes are conscious. They seem to display behavior " indicating they are. Not if you follow along with Jaynes' ideas about what sorts of behavior can be performed unconsciously, since this includes most human behavior. Remember, the authors of the Odyssey and the Old Testament were supposedly unconsious. Jaynes' hypothesis seems to me to have the clear implication that there are living peoples who go through their lives unconscious. Yet Jaynes offers no evidence that this is so, and it is pretty implausible. An anthropologist would be the best authority on this point, at any rate. Greg, lee@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu