Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ncis.llnl.gov!helios.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!agate!e260-2d.berkeley.edu!c60a-2di From: c60a-2di@e260-2d.berkeley.edu (The Cybermat Rider) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Robots & free will (was Re: The limitations of logic) Summary: Schroedinger's Cat Message-ID: <19294@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: 21 Jan 89 06:22:25 GMT References: <3328@sdsu.UUCP> <43228@linus.UUCP> <539@uceng.UC.EDU> <3550@ingr.com> <5782@sdcsvax.UUCP> Sender: usenet@agate.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 38 In article <5782@sdcsvax.UUCP> nschraudolph@ucsd.edu (Nici Schraudolph) writes: >I vaguely remember an intriguing gedanken experiment illustrating how this >"manifestation by measurement" carries over from subatomar scales to >everyday experience. It involved "Schroedinger's cat" in a box, and ended >with the conclusion that the cat only exists when the box is open. > >Unfortunately I can't remember the details - can somebody out there please >post a concise description? Lesse now...... If my memory serves me correctly, it involved a cat, a "minimally radioactive" substance and a vial of poison gas connected to a particle detector, all in a light-proof box. If an alpha (or whatever) particle hit the detector, the vial would burst and the cat would die. Erwin Schroedinger proposed that, before you open the box to find out if the cat were alive or dead, BOTH DEAD-CAT AND LIVE-CAT EXIST IN THEORY. It is the opening of the box to take a peek (ie. "measurement") that makes one or the other a reality. On the other hand, I have a splitting headache right now, so certain details may be way off base. The general framework should be correct, though. >-- > "Language is a Virus from Outer Space" - William S. Burroughs >##################################################################### ># Nici Schraudolph nschraudolph@ucsd.edu # ># University of California, San Diego ...!ucsd!nschraudolph # >##################################################################### >Disclaimer: U.C. Regents and me share no common opinions whatsoever. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ My sentiments exactly! 8-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Adrian Ho a.k.a. The Cybermat Rider University of California, Berkeley c60a-2di@web.berkeley.edu Disclaimer: Nobody takes me seriously, so is it really necessary?