Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mcvax!ukc!warwick!inmos!mcwill From: mcwill@inmos.co.uk (Iain McWilliams) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Solid State Secondary Storage Keywords: ram, wafer, disk Message-ID: <697@brwa.inmos.co.uk> Date: 12 Jan 89 10:22:56 GMT References: <248@vlsi.ll.mit.edu> Reply-To: mcwill@inmos.co.uk (Iain McWilliams) Distribution: comp Organization: INMOS Limited, Bristol, UK. Lines: 50 In article <248@vlsi.ll.mit.edu> young@vlsi.ll.mit.edu (George Young) writes: > >Our wafer scale integration group is considering developing a new kind >of computer memory unit -- something we hope might fill in the present >gap in memory speed and price between magnetic disk and ram. > >Suppose you had a unit composed of a stack of silicon wafers, maybe ten or >twenty of them. [Munch Munch Munch ... Brpppp !!!] >Comments, raves, dreams, musings welcome by e-mail. >Please, this is only a PROPOSED project, no real specs exist yet, so don't >ask where you can buy one :-). > >George Young, Rm. B-141 young@ll-vlsi.arpa >MIT Lincoln Laboratory young@vlsi.ll.mit.edu >244 Wood St. [10.1.0.10] >Lexington, Massachusetts 02173 (617) 981-2756 I remember reading about wafer scale integration as much as four or five years ago. Then, the main problems to be solved were coping with flaws on the wafer. This is because four flaws on a wafer of 'normal' RAM chips could decrease your yield from 100 to 96 chips. ( Not that much of a problem ) However if you have flaws on a WSI there are two possible circuits that could be effected. i) A RAM chip/module. This wouldn't cause that much grief as your control circuitry should be able to mark that module as bad and still function normally. Something similar to a disk o/s marking blocks as bad in the FAT. ii) The control circuitry. This is the biggie, if the control/data paths are hit then unless you have backup control circuits, you could loose a large percentage of the storage capacity on the wafer. Again it can be compared with a disk, getting a bad block within the FAT. As I said I remember reading about these problems four or five years ago. So I don't even know if these are still regarded as the main difficulties in building WSI Memory Modules. However, if they are it would be interesting to hear how you plan on overcoming them. -- Iain McWilliams Inmos Ltd, 1000 Aztec West, Almondsbury, Bristol, BS12 4SQ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The opinions above are my personal views and do | not refelect Inmos policy. | mcwill@inmos.co.uk