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From: staff_bob@gsbacd.uchicago.edu
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Subject: Re: Ingres 6.1 out - but for what OS?
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Date: 12 Jan 89 00:15:31 GMT
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>Digital Review, Jan 9, page 10, notes that Ingres 6.1 is now out,
>but neglects to mention what OS it runs on.
> 
>Is is out for Unix/Ultrix yet?
> 
We received Ingres 6.1/01 for VAX/VMS last week, but I would not encourage
you to expect it any time soon. By our judgment, the product is not yet
fit for general release. We are a so-called 'First Customer Ship', so
that the product has offically moved out of its 21-22 month long Beta 
period into another 3-4 months of 'Shipped-But-Not-Yet-Available-To-You'.
To be fair, Ingres 6.1 seems 90% reliable, but the other 10% would destroy
the company if they suddenly found themselves having to deal with all
of their clients and their newfound problems. Also, the database conversion
from 5.0 to 6.1 is non-trivial, and they may intend not to allow all their
sites to attempt the conversion simultaneously.

I am also annoyed at the occasional marketing letter inviting me to come
and see everything Ingres can do for me when we've already had the
product for close to three years.