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From: davek@rtech.rtech.com (Dave Kellogg)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Re: Ingres 6.1 out - but for what OS?
Message-ID: <2596@rtech.rtech.com>
Date: 13 Jan 89 17:52:35 GMT
References: <114@indri.primate.wisc.edu>
Reply-To: davek@rtech.UUCP (Dave Kellogg)
Organization: Relational Technology New York
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In article <114@indri.primate.wisc.edu> 
bin@primate.wisc.edu (Brain in Neutral) writes:
>Digital Review, Jan 9, page 10, notes that Ingres 6.1 is now out,
>but neglects to mention what OS it runs on.

I haven't read the article, but it certainly would seem odd if they
neglected to mention what OS it was on.  I read the press release
we did (which are usually the foundation for such articles in the 
industry tabloids) and it most certainly did mention that the operating
system on which it is currently shipping is VAX/VMS.  The UNIX ports
will follow and I personally am not in a position where I can give you
dates.  If I were a customer (as I indeed used to be before becoming 
an employee) I would contact my sales rep.  If you aren't sure how to 
go about doing that, please e-mail me directly and I'll tell you who
to call.

>(How come I never get any literature or announcements from RTI except
>a continual stream of letters telling me that Ingres is wonderful
>and that I should become a customer - when I'm already licensed?
>What a company.)

I have a few comments here. 

	1. If the mailings are what I think they are they are probably
	   seminar invitations.  You might wonder why you would go to 
	   a seminar when you are already a client, but it's not really 
	   a bad idea.  I, in fact, would go to sales seminars after major
	   announcements to find out about the new products and to talk to
	   local sales/support staff about dates and technical questions.
	   In addition, there's the free coffee and dougnuts ;-).

	2. I will double check with our marcom people anyway, and try to 
	   let you know if hunch #1 (above) is correct.

	3. I'm not sure which is worse.  I have a buddy who is an application
	   developer under another DBMS (he's just a contractor) and he gets
	   nice letters all the time talking about new features, etc.  In fact,
	   the last nice letter he got asked him to pay a 33% surcharge for
	   the next upgrade of the system, which was being viewed as a new 
	   product (and therefore wasn't free under support contracts).  So,
	   as to which is worse (getting only seminar invitations or nice 
	   little letters) I think I'd prefer the seminar invitations. 


Dave Kellogg
Relational Technology New York City
davek@rtech.rtech.com

>Paul DuBois
>dubois@primate.wisc.edu
>bin@primate.wisc.edu