Xref: utzoo comp.edu:1823 sci.math:5318 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ames!xanth!nic.MR.NET!umn-d-ub!rutgers!att!whuts!homxb!genesis!odyssey!gls From: gls@odyssey.ATT.COM (g.l.sicherman) Newsgroups: comp.edu,sci.math Subject: Re: the why of math Message-ID: <783@odyssey.ATT.COM> Date: 10 Jan 89 16:04:08 GMT References: <605@ucrmath.EDU> <6578@killer.DALLAS.TX.US> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, West Long Branch, NJ Lines: 48 In article <6578@killer.DALLAS.TX.US>, elg (Eric Green) writes: > in article <605@ucrmath.EDU>, marek@ucrmath.EDU (Marek Chrobak) says: > > Xref: killer comp.edu:1858 sci.math:5231 sci.physics:5475 > > a proof. In Herman's terms, the question WHY does not cross > > their mind. They just want to know HOW. ... > > It would be silly to blame the students for this. This is the > > way they have been taught in school, it's no wonder this is > > what they expect from college. > > Sounds like you're blaming the teachers. You shouldn't. They're doing > the best they can, with what little knowledge they have. Blame college > curriculums which do not include any "Basics of Mathematics" courses, > only tons of courses in equation manipulation (Algebra, Trig, ... I don't see any reason to cast blame. Engineers are by far the biggest "consumers" of mathematics, and they need techniques rather than derivations for nearly all their work. If they are interested in the derivations, they can take "honors" mathematics. But I would rather cross a bridge built by an engineer who knows the formulas thoroughly than by one who knows some of the formulas and can derive the rest! There is also a philosophical issue here. What we call "foundations" of mathematics are really built on top of practical mathematics, by cumulative abstraction. Indeed, an application of mathematics may have alternative foundations; for example, calculus can be founded on Weier- strass logic or on nonstandard arithmetic. It's something like the physicist's alternatives of Maxwell's equations or Lorenz's transform; either will serve as a model. But mathematicians should beware of believing in their models! There is no "why" of mathematics except in the art of the mathematician. For example, why when you add two numbers does the order not matter? A typical schoolteacher would answer "because addition is commutative." That's not an answer! > Is it any wonder why your typical bright and impatient student hates > "math"? It's BORING! Patience is an effect of typographic culture. As has been pointed out here and in comp.society, new methods are being developed for elec- tronic culture. The real "new math" is yet to come! -:- "This rock, for instance, has an I.Q. of zero. Ouch!" "What's the matter, Professor?" "It bit me!" -- Col. G. L. Sicherman gls@odyssey.att.COM