Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ames!killer!elg From: elg@killer.DALLAS.TX.US (Eric Green) Newsgroups: comp.edu Subject: Re: Student preparedness Message-ID: <6771@killer.DALLAS.TX.US> Date: 13 Jan 89 09:10:37 GMT References: <5268@pdn.UUCP> Organization: The Unix(R) Connection, Dallas, Texas Lines: 44 in article <5268@pdn.UUCP>, reggie@pdn.UUCP (George W. Leach) says: > In article <13160@bellcore.bellcore.com> duncan@ctt.bellcore.com (Scott Duncan) writes: > >>What techniques do people use to produce an atmosphere where questions that do >>not have immediate answers get asked and pursued? > > industry. Often a professor is looked upon in awe by the average undergrad. I think this is the crux of the matter -- the professor being put up on a pedestal as "the man who knows EVERYTHING about Computer Science." The lecture turns into Awestruck Students Avidly Awaiting Tidbits of Enlightenment from Oh Noble Guru of Professorhood. Pthui. What needs to be gotten across to students is that professors don't have magical powers. They're just ordinary folks who put a helluva lot of time into research and study. Any Joe Student after the first few semesters ought to have enough background so that he can begin making sense of the books and papers on a topic... but how many students do you think actually go out of their way? How many students taking, say, a Compiler course, will do more than just scan the book? Short of folks going for an advanced degree specializing in compilers, I can't think of many who'd buy every compiler book they came across, and check out the referenced papers. Yet that's just the difference between Dr. B and Joe Undergrad. Dr. B has put years into it, but there's nothing magical or mystical about it. I don't know how to impart upon students the self-confidence needed to participate in class and pursue outside questions. But I do know that part of the answer is to eliminate the self-proclaimed Godhood of All Instructors. Teachers in elementary and secondary education in particular use this method to actively discourage questions, mostly because they don't know the answers (if you ask an elementary school teacher why 1+1=2, she'll just say "because."). I've also encountered a few college-level professors, pompous types, who tend to fall into the same relationship with their students ("I'm the Professor, you're the peons, what I say goes."). Thankfully, at the college level, such instructors are a minority. But the students don't seem to have noticed. -- Eric Lee Green ..!{ames,decwrl,mit-eddie,osu-cis}!killer!elg Snail Mail P.O. Box 92191 Lafayette, LA 70509 Netter A: In Hell they run VMS. Netter B: No. In Hell, they run MS-DOS. And you only get 256k.