Path: utzoo!yunexus!torsqnt!david
From: david@torsqnt.UUCP (David Haynes)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
Subject: Re: network connectivity (FLAME)
Message-ID: <27@torsqnt.UUCP>
Date: 22 Jan 89 19:32:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: torsqnt.27
References: <27330@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU: <844@auvax.UUCP> <2398@eos.UUCP>
Reply-To: david@torsqnt.UUCP (David Haynes)
Organization: Sequent Computer  Systems(Canada) Ltd.
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In article <2398@eos.UUCP: eugene@eos.UUCP (Eugene Miya) writes:
:In article <844@auvax.UUCP> kevinc@auvax.UUCP (Kevin "auric" Crocker) writes:
:>I would love this stuff, but alas do not have ftp currently available.
:>Why does all the neat stuff always have to be ftp'able and not other
:>things too - maybe we should join a few more networks.
:
:Good networks are an essential part of computing now.  DARPA had some foresight
:early on (people like Sutherland [yes, the same one who did Sketchpad {what!}])
:to fund research in packet switching networks.  It's much more than having
:eye catching email addresses on your business card.  FTP is another resource.
:There's about half a dozen other applications protocols (including
:old proposals for graphics protocols.
:
:You have to make some efforts to improve the quality of computing in
:your environment.

FLAME ON

Well, this is all very fine and dandy, but what do you do if the good
old US of A will not let you on the network! Up until about the middle
last year, you could not access ARPA from Canada without being actively
involved in some Defense related industry and project AND you could 
show that you needed to be on the network. 

I find Mr. Miya arogance just a little too much to take! Really!

Unless we all have the lastest and greatest, we are children to
be patronized by the GODS of high tech. REALLY!

FLAME OFF
                                                     If you don't have
:access to networks, that's your loss, too.  (I was really lucky to learn
:about FTP in 1973).

FLAME ON

And if you don't like it, you should all go back to Russia where
people like you belong? Knowing about ftp (yes I knew about it then 
too doesn't mean I could get ACCESS to it!)

FLAME OFF

:                     The structure of your world affects the way you think
:about it.  (I think parts of IBM are just learning about graphics ;-).

The assumptions you make affect it also. Please try to look beyond your
navel into the real world.

:--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@aurora.arc.nasa.gov

-david-

"Kind of makes you want to spit!"   --- Evil Roy Slade