Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ncis.llnl.gov!helios.ee.lbl.gov!nosc!ucsd!rutgers!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!unmvax!ncar!gatech!purdue!decwrl!hplabs!motsj1!mcdchg!ddsw1!corpane!sparks From: sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: USSR International Computer Club (was: Information on the ICC) Summary: repeating earlier remarks Message-ID: <166@corpane.UUCP> Date: 20 Jan 89 14:38:28 GMT References: <10127@well.UUCP> <1315@orion.cf.uci.edu> <810@afit-ab.arpa> <824@afit-ab.arpa> Distribution: na Organization: Corpane Industries, Inc., Louisville Ky Lines: 60 In article <824@afit-ab.arpa>, wbralick@afit-ab.arpa (William A. Bralick) writes: > What I am trying to say is that this is not an issue for the USENET > community to decide ... this is a foreign policy issue which is made > by the federal government. What is the federal policy? I argue that > it is embodied in the export restrictions and until these are changed, > the USENET community does not have the right to vote to include such a > group. Check the constitution - the federal government has the authority > and responsibility to create foreign policy, and those powers not reserved > to the federal government remain with the states and the people. That > means the USENET doesn't get to decide what gets exported to the Soviet > Union. > Will Bralick : wbralick@afit-ab.arpa | If we desire to defeat the enemy, > Air Force Institute of Technology, | we must proportion our efforts to > | his powers of resistance. > with disclaimer; use disclaimer; | - Carl von Clauswitz Will I seem to remember you stating that you have been off the net for a few months. Well this argument is getting stale. All this has been gone over before. As someone else stated in an earlier message, Our Federal Government Can't Stop The Soviets from getting USENET. Remember, USENET is worldwide. what's to stopr someone in Australia, Japan, or Germany from giving a Soviet machine a Newsfeed? Nothing. It is also Illegal to post anything to the net that has any security implications to it, so for the most part the net is not indangering the security of the United states. If someone wanted to give classified Information to the Soviets, He surely could find something a little more secure and private than Usenet! And The Soviets (Hi Ivan!) are more than likely reading this right now. I mean just think about how many 'spies' must be here in the united states at this moment. jeez. all they would have to do is take classes at a university,sign up for an account on killer, the well , portal and get full access to the net. then just beam the info back to the motherland by whatever means they send back their other info. Usenet is not that big a deal. Do you worry about the Japanese or German's getting our secret information from Usenet? Also someone also said (Sorry to keep repeating what OTHER people say, It's just that I am trying to catch you up on the arguments so far) Just look at Usenet. total Anarchy. People saying what they want when they want... Can you imagine the impact this would have if the Russians got to read all this? It would make Radio America look sick! Talk about propoganda! We would be showing the communists what freedom of the press really is! The ones to stop usenet should be the Russians not the free world . all of the above is paraphrased , intermixed with my own opinions and is just to represent some of the arguements that have previously been stated. _______________________________________________________________________________ John Sparks // Amiga | corpane : sparks@corpane a.k.a \X/ UUCP | blitter : john@blitter (preferred; path below) RedHawk ~~~~~~~~~~~~| {rutgers|uunet}!ukma!corpane!disk!blitter!john D.R.A.G.O.N.| >> call D.I.S.K. @ 502/968-5401 thru -5406 << Ye Quote: Ideas don't stay in some minds very long because they don't like solitary confinement. _______________________________________________________________________________