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From: stevee@ism780c.isc.com (Steve Ellingson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.misc
Subject: Re: Unix bigotry
Message-ID: <21160@ism780c.isc.com>
Date: 12 Jan 89 22:00:49 GMT
References: <28200249@mcdurb> <451@babbage.acc.virginia.edu> <1951@scolex> <1135@raspail.UUCP> <2693@ficc.uu.net>
Reply-To: stevee@ism780c.UUCP (Steve Ellingson)
Organization: Interactive Systems Corp., Santa Monica CA
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In article <2693@ficc.uu.net> peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) writes:
>I'm a UNIX Zealot, and I lust after access control lists... BUT...
>
>I don't see any conflict there. UNIX is just a programming model. There's no
>reason you can't have an operating system that supports those 30 or so
>core system calls... and can thus run UNIX software... that has any file
>security you want. I don't care what the thing looks like underneath, so
>long as I can run my UNIX programs and never have to parse weird file
>names (like PROJECTS*PETER.ALARMS/FOR(-1) or _DRA0:[USERS.PETER]ALARMS.FOR;32
>or SY0:[310,320]ALARMS.FOR;2).
>
>And I really need a version of the bourne shell, for scripts, though I
>guess REXX would do in a pinch.
>-- 
>Peter da Silva, Xenix Support, Ferranti International Controls Corporation.
>Work: uunet.uu.net!ficc!peter, peter@ficc.uu.net, +1 713 274 5180.   `-_-'
>Home: bigtex!texbell!sugar!peter, peter@sugar.uu.net.                 'U`
>Opinions may not represent the policies of FICC or the Xenix Support group.

You can probably satisfy your lusts with an Apollo. You get
UNIX (both Sys V and BSD, along with a proprietary shell/
environment called Aegis), ACLs, and a pretty nice distributed
file system. Of course, underneath the hood, it ain't UNIX...

			Steve

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Steve Ellingson
Interactive Systems                 stevee@ism780c.isc.com