Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-ncis!helios.ee.lbl.gov!nosc!ucsd!ucbvax!USNA.MIL!tsmith From: tsmith@USNA.MIL ("Timothy G. Smith ", Systems Staff) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Bfly redirect problem Message-ID: <8901140335.aa01130@CAD.USNA.MIL> Date: 14 Jan 89 08:35:58 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 198 NOTE: this message has many lines longer than 80 cols- find a wide screen and it will be a whole lot easier to read. I have been noticing the alleged massive redirects problem(s) for the last few days and had not managed to find Mike Brescia's "smoking gun" until a few minutes ago... I have been poking around with brl's latest version of ping and have come across some strange behavior. Take alook at the ouput from pinging several hosts below. In particuliar note the addresses we are being redirected to (New addr:0x1100141a) this looks to me like someone up at brl decided to output 26.20.0.17 (MCLEAN-DCEC-MB.DDN.MIL) in backwards hex notation. Likewise (New addr:0x6800151a) corresponds to 26.21.0.104 (RESTON-DCEC-MB.DDN.MIL). It looks to me like the bflys are redirecting us back and forth from one to the other. Anyone agree? Anyone else got any data to compare? Anyone got a solution? thanks, Tim Smith -[hp]ostmaster and general network person US mail:ECSD/CADIG mailstop: 11G E-mail: US Naval Academy internet:tsmith@USNA.MIL Annapolis, MD 21402 tsmith@USNA.NAVY.MIL (RSN) MaBell :(301)267-4413 uucp :...!uunet!usna!tsmith Autovon: 281-4413 PING 129.97.129.72 (129.97.129.72): 56 data bytes 36 bytes from MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL (26.20.0.17): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x6800151a) Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst Data 4 5 00 5400 880f 0 0000 fe 01 0a90 1a070066 81618148 64 bytes from 129.97.129.72: icmp_seq=0 time=1084 ms 36 bytes from RESTON-DCEC-MB.DDN.MIL (26.21.0.104): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x1100141a) Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst Data 4 5 00 5400 8e0f 0 0000 fe 01 0490 1a070066 81618148 36 bytes from MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL (26.20.0.17): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x6800151a) Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst Data 4 5 00 5400 940f 0 0000 fe 01 fe8f 1a070066 81618148 64 bytes from 129.97.129.72: icmp_seq=1 time=2300 ms 36 bytes from RESTON-DCEC-MB.DDN.MIL (26.21.0.104): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x1100141a) Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst Data 4 5 00 5400 9a0f 0 0000 fe 01 f88f 1a070066 81618148 64 bytes from 129.97.129.72: icmp_seq=2 time=1572 ms 36 bytes from MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL (26.20.0.17): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x6800151a) Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst Data 4 5 00 5400 a10f 0 0000 fe 01 f18f 1a070066 81618148 64 bytes from 129.97.129.72: icmp_seq=3 time=2127 ms 64 bytes from 129.97.129.72: icmp_seq=4 time=1174 ms 36 bytes from RESTON-DCEC-MB.DDN.MIL (26.21.0.104): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x1100141a) Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst Data 4 5 00 5400 a60f 0 0000 fe 01 ec8f 1a070066 81618148 64 bytes from 129.97.129.72: icmp_seq=5 time=915 ms 36 bytes from MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL (26.20.0.17): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x6800151a) Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst Data 4 5 00 5400 ae0f 0 0000 fe 01 e48f 1a070066 81618148 ^C36 bytes from RESTON-DCEC-MB.DDN.MIL (26.21.0.104): Destination Net Unreachable ----129.97.129.72 PING Statistics---- 7 packets transmitted, 6 packets received, 14% packet loss round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 915/1528/2300 PING neat.ai.toronto.edu (128.100.1.65): 56 data bytes 36 bytes from RESTON-DCEC-MB.DDN.MIL (26.21.0.104): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x1100141a) Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst Data 4 5 00 5400 3526 0 0000 fe 01 61fa 1a070066 80640141 64 bytes from 128.100.1.65: icmp_seq=0 time=863 ms 36 bytes from MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL (26.20.0.17): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x6800151a) Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst Data 4 5 00 5400 3826 0 0000 fe 01 5efa 1a070066 80640141 64 bytes from 128.100.1.65: icmp_seq=1 time=897 ms 36 bytes from RESTON-DCEC-MB.DDN.MIL (26.21.0.104): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x1100141a) Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst Data 4 5 00 5400 3b26 0 0000 fe 01 5bfa 1a070066 80640141 64 bytes from 128.100.1.65: icmp_seq=2 time=890 ms 36 bytes from MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL (26.20.0.17): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x6800151a) Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst Data 4 5 00 5400 3e26 0 0000 fe 01 58fa 1a070066 80640141 64 bytes from 128.100.1.65: icmp_seq=3 time=802 ms 36 bytes from RESTON-DCEC-MB.DDN.MIL (26.21.0.104): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x1100141a) Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst Data 4 5 00 5400 4126 0 0000 fe 01 55fa 1a070066 80640141 36 bytes from MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL (26.20.0.17): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x6800151a) Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst Data 4 5 00 2800 4426 0 0000 1d 06 39db 1a070066 80e40102 TCP: from port 25, to port 26068 (decimal) 64 bytes from 128.100.1.65: icmp_seq=4 time=833 ms ----neat.ai.toronto.edu PING Statistics---- 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 802/857/897 PING uunet.uu.net (192.12.141.129): 56 data bytes 36 bytes from MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL (26.20.0.17): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x6800151a) Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst Data 4 5 00 5400 4727 0 0000 fe 01 672d 1a070066 c00c8d81 64 bytes from 192.12.141.129: icmp_seq=0 time=671 ms 36 bytes from RESTON-DCEC-MB.DDN.MIL (26.21.0.104): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x1100141a) Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst Data 4 5 00 5400 4f27 0 0000 fe 01 5f2d 1a070066 c00c8d81 64 bytes from 192.12.141.129: icmp_seq=1 time=507 ms 36 bytes from MOFFETT-FLD-MB.DDN.MIL (26.20.0.16): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x6800151a) Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst Data 4 5 00 3900 5127 0 0000 1d 11 91c6 1a070066 81631402 UDP: from port 53, to port 53 (decimal) 36 bytes from MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL (26.20.0.17): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x6800151a) Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst Data 4 5 00 5400 5727 0 0000 fe 01 572d 1a070066 c00c8d81 64 bytes from 192.12.141.129: icmp_seq=2 time=511 ms 36 bytes from RESTON-DCEC-MB.DDN.MIL (26.21.0.104): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x1100141a) Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst Data 4 5 00 5400 6327 0 0000 fe 01 4b2d 1a070066 c00c8d81 64 bytes from 192.12.141.129: icmp_seq=3 time=570 ms 36 bytes from MCLEAN-MB.DDN.MIL (26.20.0.17): Redirect Network (New addr: 0x6800151a) Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst Data 4 5 00 5400 6c27 0 0000 fe 01 422d 1a070066 c00c8d81 64 bytes from 192.12.141.129: icmp_seq=4 time=483 ms ----uunet.uu.net PING Statistics---- 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 483/548/671 Here the top of a dump from gated on our milnet gateway (if anyone wants the rest ask and I will mail to you [provided the bflys cooperate]): GATED version 1.3.1.36 memory dump at Sat Jan 14 02:02:49 1989 INTERFACE STATS: Interface: imp0 metric: 0 Address: 26.7.0.102 Up-down transitions: 0 Net Number: 26.0.0.0 Net Mask: ff000000 Subnet Number: 26.0.0.0 Subnet Mask: ff000000 Reconstituted Metric (RIP ONLY): NOT APPLIED (uses true metric) Flags: Fixed Metrics: RIP: NONE HELLO: NONE Active gateways on interface: NONE Interface: ex0 metric: 0 Address: 192.12.31.1 Up-down transitions: 0 Broadcast Address: 192.12.31.255 Net Number: 192.12.31.0 Net Mask: ffffff00 Subnet Number: 192.12.31.0 Subnet Mask: ffffff00 Reconstituted Metric (RIP ONLY): NOT APPLIED (uses true metric) Flags: Fixed Metrics: RIP: NONE HELLO: NONE Active gateways on interface: NONE EGP status: N_remote_nets: 4 defaultegpmetric: 255 Autonomous System: 214 Neighbor: 26.21.0.104 Interface: 26.7.0.102 Hello interval: 62 Poll interval: 186 State: Reachability: Poll net: 26.0.0.0 Flags: <> Neighbor: 26.20.0.17 Interface: 26.7.0.102 Hello interval: 62 Poll interval: 186 State: Reachability: Poll net: 26.0.0.0 Flags: <> Neighbor: 26.1.0.40 Interface: 26.7.0.102 Hello interval: 62 Poll interval: 186 State: Reachability: Poll net: 26.0.0.0 Flags: <> Neighbor: 26.3.0.75 Interface: 26.7.0.102 Hello interval: 62 Poll interval: 186 State: Reachability: Poll net: 26.0.0.0 Flags: <> Neighbor: 26.1.0.65 Interface: 26.7.0.102 Hello interval: 62 Poll interval: 186 State: Reachability: Poll net: 26.0.0.0 Flags: <> Martian networks: 224.0.0.0 223.255.255.0 192.0.0.0 191.255.0.0 128.0.0.0 127.0.0.0 ----------------------------------------------------------- ROUTING TABLES: 626 nets