Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!isishq!doug From: doug@isishq.FIDONET.ORG (Doug Thompson) Newsgroups: comp.society.futures Subject: Re: Access control to future nets Message-ID: <1191.23CE9236@isishq.FIDONET.ORG> Date: 14 Jan 89 04:52:09 GMT Organization: International Student Information Service -- Headquarters Lines: 59 EH>From: hack%lock.span@VLSI.JPL.NASA.GOV (Edmund Hack) EH>I am wary of "voting" types of schemes as they can be abused EH>to suppress the EH>rights of minorities easily. I could see where Communists, Atheists and EH>just plain strange people could be banished for having unpopular opinions EH>and expressing them out loud. EH> EH>Anyway, there are my 2 centavos worth. EH> Interesting. "I may disagree with what you say, but I'd fight for your right to say it . . . " (Voltaire). The idea of network police who could tell anyone that they could not say what they are saying it quite frightening to me. It's not because The jeff daffodils of this world would be silenced, but that we all would exercise self-censorship to avoid drawing ourselves to the attention of the thought-e-mail-police. Social pressure is cool. Write to the one who offends you and tell him you are offended. That works if you are dealing with real people. If you are dealing with idealogues, or people being paid to propagandize, it probably won't work. The custom kill program (I've written several that are quite nice) allows each user to avert his eyes or stop his ears. I'm very reluctant to even think about anything more official or more potent than that. Freedom of speech, and freedom to criticise anyone is really fundamental to a free society. In another week I'll probably automatically kill all msgs from Jeff Daffodil, but that only effects me. Other users can still read his msgs if they want. I think that is important. To update Voltaire, "I may kill all msgs from you, but I'll fight for your right to post it, and I'll let it reside on my disks". The ideal kill program informs the author by netmail each time a message is killed. Posters of pure crap should get the message soon enough :-) . . . I'm working on it . . . =Doug -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fido 1:221/162 -- 1:221/0 280 Phillip St., UUCP: !watmath!isishq!doug Unit B-4-11 DAS: [DEZCDT]doug Waterloo, Ontario Bitnet: fido@water Canada N2L 3X1 Internet: doug@isishq.math.fidonet.org (519) 746-5022 ------------------------------------------------------------------------