Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ames!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!longway!std-unix From: domo@uk.co.sphinx (Dominic Dunlop) Newsgroups: comp.std.unix Subject: Re: USENIX Standards Updates Summary: Participate! (Except that tells you only about one group) Message-ID: <295@longway.TIC.COM> Date: 11 Jan 89 14:49:17 GMT References: <261@longway.TIC.COM> <278@longway.TIC.COM> <279@longway.TIC.COM> <281@longway.TIC.COM> <282@longway.TIC.COM> <289@longway.TIC.COM> <292@longway.TIC.COM> Sender: std-unix@longway.TIC.COM Reply-To: domo@riddle.UUCP (Dominic Dunlop) Organization: Sphinx Ltd., Maidenhead, England Lines: 51 Approved: jsq@longway.tic.com (Moderator, John S. Quarterman) From: domo@uk.co.sphinx (Dominic Dunlop) I'm all in favour of Usenix' effort to summarise progress and by-play in a number of standaridisation forums. It has been commented firstly that the summaries show the effect of editorial decisions, and secondly that editorial input -- whether explicit or implicit -- is a necessary part of the production of any summary -- particularly a useful summary. I can't find any fault in either of those statements. The only way to know exactly what is going on in any one forum is to participate in its activities yourself. If the activities of a particular group are vitally important to you, I urge you to participate. You'll find yourself being roped into the work of the group, and that's all to the good -- Parkinson's Law applies in committee work as in other aspects of life. You'll also get to have some interesting meals with interesting people in interesting places. (The same applies to drinks, if that appeals to you.) What's more, participate now, and you may get to write reports for Usenix, so involving yourself in the editorial process! In my experience, the most difficult aspect of participation is getting somebody to pick up the tab -- although some people with more devotion than I have been known to pay out of their own pockets in order to attend! The trouble with participating in a group is that you get to know only about the activities of that group, and possibly those peripheral areas of other group which ahve an effect your own work. There simply are not enough hours in the day (or synapses in the brain, particularly after experiencing some of those drinks) for any one person to participate even in all the activities taking place under the Posix umbrella, never mind getting involved with other bodies such as ANSI, EWOS (who?), ISO, JIS... (and anyway, the expense would be horrendous). As a result, in order to get anything like a global picture of what's going on, it's essential to rely on summaries. To make a large and pontifical generalisation, it seems to me that one of the main ways in which things get done in this world is through decisions made on the basis of a knowledge of summaries, rather than through an intimate knowledge of the details of a particular aspect of a particular situation. Politicians are briefed on many topics by experts; managers act on the basis of reports from their juniors; people send money in response to pictures of a disaster on TV. All of these sources of information involve an editorial element, and it's that which makes them more, rather than less, useful. More power to Usenix' elbow for its much-needed initiative in applying this concept to standards activities. (Another reason that things get done is that driven people just go ahead and do them anyway...) -- Dominic Dunlop domo@sphinx.co.uk domo@riddle.uucp Volume-Number: Volume 15, Number 60