Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!PSUVM.BITNET!ART100 From: ART100@PSUVM.BITNET ("Andy Tefft 862-6728", 814) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Null modem file transfer Message-ID: <8901091916.aa10622@SMOKE.BRL.MIL> Date: 10 Jan 89 00:08:00 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 31 I have had great success transferring files via null modem cable from my //c to a friends IBM PC clone. I used 19200 baud, and the limit on the speed I could really transfer files seemed to be only caused by disk read/write delays. Wish I had had a ramdisk/hard drive on the clone. I used both Zlink and Kermit 3.84 at 19200 baud. Kermit was quite a bit slower for two reasons: It read the disk more often, and seemed to have more overhead (I used Kermit protocal on Kermit and XMODEM on Zlink. I also wish there were YMODEM on the clone at the time!). For a 30K GIF file, throughput was about 6000-7000 baud (measured in actual data bits/second, assuming 8-bit characters). Kermit was about half as fast. It was quite interesting to watch! By the way, what I used as a null modem cable was a "null modem adaptor" from radio shack (Male db-25 on one end, female on the other). This connected directly (well almost) to the back of the clone (needed a female-female adaptor, too, but this was around because it was needed to hook up his modem), and my regular //c modem cable was connected to the adaptor. I was gonna make myself a null modem cable, but it would have cost me $6 plus soldering plus some way to protect the wires (wasn't going to buy hoods for those db-25's! at $2 apiece), and the adaptor was only $8 anyway. if anyone wants wiring diagrams for a null modem cable, I believe I have some. the basic idea of it is to switch all send-receive pairs (i.e. SD of one end goes to where RD would be on the other end). It's a great way to transfer files like GIF files and text files between computer brands/ disk formats. It was even convenient enough to take my //c over to the friend's house that has the IBM, instead of just calling up and transferring via modem. Andy