Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-ncis!helios.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!ucbvax!UCONNVM.BITNET!SEWALL From: SEWALL@UCONNVM.BITNET (Murph Sewall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: RE: Re: Problems Unpacking Kermit 3.84 Message-ID: <8901121629.aa17661@SMOKE.BRL.MIL> Date: 12 Jan 89 21:14:57 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 30 >This is an addendum to my earlier comments on unpacking KERMIT 3.84/3.85, and >on Murph Sewall's reply. Apple does not store line feeds after carriage >returns >in its text files, but it doesn't remove them if they are already there either! The point is, because the LF's are NOT standard for Apple text files, the ONLY way they get there is if they are IMPORTED from somewhere else (usually by XModem or ASCII capture). If you can get rid of them with TEX on the VAX, do so. You'll only have to do that ONCE (to create a working Kermit-65). UNLIKE XModem, Kermit KNOWS that most of the World uses CR-LF while Apple uses only CR :-). Actually, the Kermit on EACH END knows what the appropriate text format is for the system it's on (one of the reasons for differentiating between 'text' and 'binary' file transfers). If you download with Kermit, it will make the LF's go away AND set the 8th bit correctly for the operating system it's running under. XModem is strictly "what you see is what you get" while Kermit is transparent only for 'binary' file transfers. Murph Sewall Vaporware? ---> [Gary Larson returns 1/1/90] Prof. of Marketing Sewall@UConnVM.BITNET Business School sewall%uconnvm.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu [INTERNET] U of Connecticut {psuvax1 or mcvax }!UCONNVM.BITNET!SEWALL [UUCP] -+- I don't speak for my employer, though I frequently wish that I could (subject to change without notice; void where prohibited) According to the American Facsimile Association, more than half the calls from Japan to the U.S. are fax calls. FAX it to me at: 1-203-486-5246