Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ames!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!harmonica.cis.ohio-state.edu!schanck From: schanck@harmonica.cis.ohio-state.edu (Christopher Schanck) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Turbo C 2.0 and EMS Message-ID: <31050@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> Date: 12 Jan 89 02:42:09 GMT References: <1624@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu> <4330113@hpindda.HP.COM> <29154@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> <8204@dasys1.UUCP> Sender: news@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu Reply-To: Christopher Schanck Organization: Ohio State University Computer and Information Science Lines: 45 In article <8204@dasys1.UUCP> ejablow@dasys1.UUCP (Eric Robert Jablow) writes: >Some people have complained that their programming projects are too >big for TC2.0's integrated environment. I'd like to put my own two > [...suggestions on using integrated environs on big projects...] I am one of those people who has had problems with the size of the integrated environment. Several of my personal projects are just too big. Now, I understand your rational in your suggestions, but it is still to much of a sacrifice for me. For me (and this is just for me, no other claims made :-), I like as few different edit/compile/link sequences as possible; using both environments as you suggest means having two different tools to do the same thing. For me, that is in addition to what I use on the university systems. Using the IE also means using TC's editor, which is really iritating to me. It is not a bad editor, but I can't live without split-screen/multiple-file editing. Besides, I am used to my editor. The reason I like to keep things as streamlined as possible is to let me concentrate on the code. As some forgotten hacker once said "The code is the thing, man; the code is the thing!" My beef with TC is a pretty bogus one, but it is a beef nonetheless. How come you can by a version completely functional only integrated (no debugger=not functional) for cheap; or a version with both complete systems for more; but you can't by a version that is just command line, with a debugger, for cheap. I wouldn't mind not having the IE, but I would really like the debugger for the command-line!!! Oh well, I am probably in a minority here... >The major difference, I think, between the TC integrated environment >and the QC or WATCOM C integrated environments, (and I've never >used them, so don't take my word for it) is that the others restrict >you to just one memory model, while TC doesn't; you can choose PLEASE don't get get me wrong, I think TC's integrated environment is awesome, as such things go. I am just wedded to my command-line work... Aww what the heck, it was fun.. Chris -=- "My brain is NOT a deadlock-free environment!!!!" --- Christopher Schanck, mammal at large. schanck@flounder.cis.ohio-state.edu