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From: morris@dms.UUCP (Jim Morris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc
Subject: Re: Turbo C 2.0 and EMS
Message-ID: <597@dms.UUCP>
Date: 12 Jan 89 19:48:30 GMT
References: <31050@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu>
Organization: Atari Games Inc., Milpitas, CA
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From article <31050@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu>, by schanck@harmonica.cis.ohio-state.edu (Christopher Schanck):
> 
> My beef with TC is a pretty bogus one, but it is a beef nonetheless. How come
> you can by a version completely functional only integrated (no debugger=not
> functional) for cheap; or a version with both complete systems for more; but
> you can't by a version that is just command line, with a debugger, for cheap.
> I wouldn't mind not having the IE, but I would really like the debugger for
> the command-line!!! Oh well, I am probably in a minority here...
> 
> -=-
> --- Christopher Schanck, mammal at large.
> schanck@flounder.cis.ohio-state.edu

The stand alone debugger has FAR more functionality than the built-in one,
so I would expect to pay extra for it anyway.

$150 - $180 (discount price) for the standalone debugger, c compiler and 
assembler, (and an integrated environment, if you can use it)
seems cheap to me, compared to say $300+ for MSC 5.0.

In my opinion the standalone debugger is one of the best 
c level debuggers I have ever had the pleasure to use, and I have used MANY
Emulators, debuggers and machine code monitors!!

Additionally if you are lucky enough to have a 386 system with > 1MB
you almost get a hardware emulator builtin. This allows you to set up
global breakpoints with no slowing down of your code at all, and the
code can run at the same address it would run if it were stand-alone.

How they can release quality code like that for the price they do is beyond me,
but my wallet and sanity thanks them.

(I am not saying all their code is bug free, but what code is?? :>} )
-- 
Jim Morris.         			 morris@dms.UUCP or weitek!dms!morris
           Atari Games Corporation, Sycamore Drive, Milpitas CA 95035.
       (Arcade Video Game Manufacturer, NOT Atari Corp. ST manufacturer).
 Any opinions expressed are probably my own, and not those of Atari Games Corp.