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From: thaler@speedy.cs.wisc.edu (Maurice Thaler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc
Subject: Re: Telix
Keywords: telix
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Date: 15 Jan 89 21:19:14 GMT
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Reply-To: thaler@speedy.cs.wisc.edu (Maurice Thaler)
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Sorry, to say that TELIX owes anything to "QMODEM" or John Friel is an
insult to TELIX. QMODEM is single-handedly responsible for the wide
spread mis-usage of incorrect names of protocols. Qmodem took years to
figure out XMODEM-CRC, called XMODEM-1K  "YMODEM", called XMDODEM-1K-G,
"YMODEM-G", and added insipid protocols like "IMODEM" (idiot modem?). To
further the mess, Clark Development followed QMODEM's bogus standards in
their PC-BOARD software thereby really messing up peoples heads.  
We are very lucky that Chuck Forsberg's DSZ is of such high quality,
that slowly but surely, and purely by USERS' demands, ZMODEM has become
the defacto standard on good BBS's  thereby rendering mutant, misnamed
protocols in the dust. 
As a SYSOP of two BBS's, I can only say that QMODEM and John Friel did
not perform any public services.

P.S. When I first tried QMODEM several years ago, I tried its protocols,
found them brain-damaged, called up Friel's BBS and left him a polite
message hinting that he should read XYMODEM.DOC which I uploaded there.
He obviously ignored both my message and Chuck Forsberg's excellent
Rossetta Stone Document.


Maurice Thaler   SYSOP  Audio Projects BBS (608) 836-9473
                 SYSOP  Power Board    BBS (608) 222-8842