Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ncis.llnl.gov!helios.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!ucbvax!decwrl!purdue!bu-cs!bloom-beacon!gatech!ukma!psuvm.bitnet!cunyvm!ndsuvm1!ndsuvax!nopuklic From: nopuklic@ndsuvax.UUCP (Blayne Puklich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer Subject: Re: SADE Keywords: Anybody out there using it? Message-ID: <2045@ndsuvax.UUCP> Date: 19 Jan 89 23:18:29 GMT References: <3494@mit-amt> Reply-To: nopuklic@ndsuvax.UUCP (Blayne Puklich) Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo Lines: 40 In article <3494@mit-amt> phil@mit-amt (Phil Sohn) writes: > > Could someone give me a brief description of SADE? How >does it compare to the THINK debugger? Does SADE use a "Mac-like >interface" or is it more in the spirit of MPW? Well, even MPW uses a "Mac-like" interface... Anyways, SADE does have a "WorkSheet" exactly like MPW in which you can type commands. It has menus that look almost exactly like MPW's: It has Find, Mark, and Window. It also supports scripts like MPW, however, the command language is different in many places (it's debugger oriented, of course). Compared to THINK C's debugger, I'd have to say that SADE is quite a bit more difficult to learn. However, I think that SADE for me will be much easier to use, since I can customize it exactly like I want it, for each project that I work on. SADE's command language is about as difficult to learn as the MPW command language. SADE can show quite a bit more that the LSC debugger. It'll show you the heap in a neat way, it'll show you all the FCBs in the system, it will show you all the resource in the system in a neat way. It does quite a few more things (the programmers even stuck in a factorial function). All in all, both are nice. If you have a spare 5 mb, go for SADE. If you only have 2mb, LSC debugger is the route to go. I've got both here (I'm staring at them both now also), and I like them both. BTW, SADE is standalone, which means that if other compiler writers can make their compilers spit out SADE symbolic information, you could use SADE with them. I don't know where to find the format of the .SYM file yet, though. ||+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++|| || Blayne Puklich nopuklic@Plains.NoDak.EDU "I think I'm going || || NDSU Student ACM nopuklic@ndsuvax.BITNET bald..." || || Chairperson NU087763@NDSUVM1.BITNET -- Rush, from Caress || || North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND of Steel, 1975 || || || || "Everyone should have a Corvette, I think." || ||-------------------------------------------------------------------------||