Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ames!haven!purdue!decwrl!labrea!csli!gandalf From: gandalf@csli.STANFORD.EDU (Juergen Wagner) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: Black hole file Message-ID: <7131@csli.STANFORD.EDU> Date: 16 Jan 89 21:06:35 GMT References: <498@sdrc.UUCP> <8776@alice.UUCP> Reply-To: gandalf@csli.stanford.edu (Juergen Wagner) Organization: Center for the Study of Language and Information, Stanford U. Lines: 31 In article <8776@alice.UUCP> debra@alice.UUCP () writes: >Sounds like you have a brain-damaged shell that treats "blackhole" >as a name for /dev/null. Hmmm... I doubt that's the case. If the file were realized as an internal shell alias for /dev/null, you wouldn't get an inode number, and (what's even more interesting), you wouldn't get the same inode number every time. Since the original poster found out the inode number, I guess he has checked that "blackhole" is not just a symbolic link to /dev/null, or another /dev/null with the same device id. Also, the fact that you can re-create it makes the story more suspicipous. I think, one should try a few things: [1] If the file is created on an NFS file system, try the same on the host exporting the file system. [2] Delete "blackhole", create some other files, and re-create your black hole. Does any of the other files have the same black hole behavior? Is "blackhole" still one? [3] Try another shell. If you are running NFS, I suspect an NFS problem. On some occasions (non-reproducible), I noticed that some files appear to have some empty blocks in them (zero bytes), although they seem to be fine on the NFS server. Good luck, -- Juergen Wagner gandalf@csli.stanford.edu wagner@arisia.xerox.com