Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!quintus!pds From: pds@quintus.uucp (Peter Schachte) Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc Subject: Re: Stirring the UI hornets' nest Message-ID: <918@quintus.UUCP> Date: 9 Jan 89 22:30:57 GMT References: <34500001@primerd> Sender: news@quintus.UUCP Reply-To: pds@quintus.UUCP (Peter Schachte) Organization: Quintus Computer Systems, Inc. Lines: 31 In article <34500001@primerd> dnk@primerd.prime.com writes: >On 12/30/88, roland@osf.org (Roland Stich) posted to comp.windows.x OSF's User >Environment Component letter (by John Paul, 12/29) to its membership. >Does anyone have any comments, pro or con, about that decision? > >What is UNIX International's current position regarding look & feel? Are >they solidly backing Open Look, forsaking all others? SHOULD they? NO, they shouldn't. Neither should OSF. Look and feel is a matter of individual taste, just like shells and editors. Some people are pretty passionate about vi, others feel just as strongly about emacs. People are bound to feel much the same way about their visual unix environment. Trying to standardize these things is a mistake. What should be standardized is programmer INTERFACE, and a way to build programs that use widgets (user interface objects) whose code does not exist within the executable image of the application itself, but is dynamically linked a runtime (e.g., shared libraries). This way, different people can choose different implementations of widgets, or even implement their own versions of standard widgets, with whatever features they like, and use these alternative implementations with off-the-shelf applications. Standards can be way to improve portability and increase the market for a product, or they can be a straitjacket that stiffle innovation and lead to homogeneous mediocrity. We need a way to do the former for unix without doing the latter. The standard looks & feels do both. Just my opinions. -Peter Schachte pds@quintus.uucp ..!sun!quintus!pds